Problems after ABS Pump Fix [FIXED]

[Scottymon]

Unfortunately, I've done all that, will do some more testing tomorrow evening - currently sat in the motor in the dark, swearing on occasion and rocking, neighbours must think I'm some sort of Dogger, haha.

Thanks for your help though, anymore insight from you or anyone else is greatly appreciated, I've got a sneaking suspicion I'm going to have to keep the car off road for a bit past MOT to get sorted. Booo.

[doylebros]

I remember calling Eddie-NL who talked me through a way around the issue on the last one I done cause I just split the original unit and installed the repair kit - is that what you've done or did you repair a different unit to the original unit and fit a repair kit to the replacement item?

[Scottymon]

I split the original (MY2005 Mk60) Unit mate, due to the G201 Switch error; using the repair kit - wonder if @Eddie-NL could recall his wisdom :D ? Life and Saver come to mind

[doylebros]

I split the original (MY2005 Mk60) Unit mate, due to the G201 Switch error; using the repair kit - wonder if @Eddie-NL could recall his wisdom :D ? Life and Saver come to mind

He solved it with VCDS rather quickly after my many hours of rechecking my work - you can only ask him!

[Scottymon]

I split the original (MY2005 Mk60) Unit mate, due to the G201 Switch error; using the repair kit - wonder if @Eddie-NL could recall his wisdom :D ? Life and Saver come to mind

He solved it with VCDS rather quickly after my many hours of rechecking my work - you can only ask him!

Fired him a PM, hopefully he'll jump on here :)

There are some other errors that have popped up too which are most likely related (I've heard the Steering Assist is part of the ABS system).  I've had the Steering Assist many times before when disconnecting the battery but it usually dissappers after basic settings and a drive, this time it cleared, said OK, but now there's no power steering or comms to it, LOL, you have to laugh.

Friday,18,September,2015,12:11:24:10074

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56

VIN:    Mileage: 234330km/145605miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Revision: 00T12001   
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 408B44336A13

1 Fault Found:
00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44)
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: F4E358E3EE2B

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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^^ Look where the ABS Control Module showed up, in Xenon range ^^ weird.

[Scottymon]

I wonder if the Duff ABS Wheel Speed Sensor is not allowing the Steering Assist to be calibrated?

I took everything out again and disconnected the plug and checked the wiring, looked all good... I get this from the Steering Assist now:

Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0   D06 1701 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346318E32EAB

2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 4320 km
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                    Voltage: 11.90 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:

[doylebros]

For my money it's just completing the basic settings with VCDS and not the ABS sensor!

[Scottymon]

I've tried matey, must be 10 times on the road now, I swear people think I'm eyeing up their homes, lol.

I've had the offside rear wheel off, and the "reluctor ring?" if that's the name, that the sensor reads from, felt scored and not smooth with quite a bit of rust, I did try and brighten it a bit but the error returned.
I ran Measuring Blocks on the wheel speed sensors and THAT one isn't showing any speed, the others all read exactly the same correct road speed.

As it's the only hardware problem I can see and it's ABS related I think I need to try and sort it.  But I'm not 100% sure whether it's the sensor or the hub... logic suggests it's the hub, as when I clear the error in VCDS it doesn't come back until I move the car, I would've thought that if the sensor was broken then it would return straight away, but that's guess work... I'd much prefer to just change the sensor as I bet the hub is a PITA and special spline required I've read...... hmmph :(

Before I do anything though, I think I'm going to FULLY charge the battery, and try the settings again... low juice causes mad issues.   Having no Power Steering is a chore though

[Scottymon]

Still remuging about for clues :)

Looks like Rosstech specifically state in the special notes area that if a WSS (wheel speed sensor) is not working then the steering wheel stop adaptation wont work:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist#Steering_Limit_Stop_Adaptation

Is there any way to tell whether its a bad sensor or the hub that needs doing before actually doing it?

[Scottymon]

Anyone got a 12 point Triple Square Spline 18mm with 3/8 drive I could borrow?

Halfords only seem to have a 16mm in their Professional range, DOH.

[dazza]

I doubt you will get 18mm in 3/8 drive.

[Scottymon]

You're right mate, looks like 1/2 inch only - bit of a monster torque requirement 180lbft and half turn.  Looked everywhere locally (online) just can't get them. 
My local VW parts desk shutdown recently, so it's a 60 mile trip to the nearest, don't really want to drive it that far with no PAS; I'll grab one online.

[Andy]

Where about are you has I have one,it's normally the sensor on the rear wheel bearing that goes rather than the abs sensor

[Scottymon]

That's what I've read too mate, I'm in North Wales, Llandegla area tomorow morning... thanks for the offer mate.

What's the opinion of a pattern hub/wheel bearing part from EuroCP?

[doylebros]

Still remuging about for clues :)

Looks like Rosstech specifically state in the special notes area that if a WSS (wheel speed sensor) is not working then the steering wheel stop adaptation wont work:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist#Steering_Limit_Stop_Adaptation

Is there any way to tell whether its a bad sensor or the hub that needs doing before actually doing it?

Out of interest was the vehicle scanned before the ABS pump tear down if so was the wheel sensor faulty on that scan?
I test the ABS sensors with a multimeter and just compare the value to a working sensors on the ohms scale - this might help http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=129702.0
On price check with TPS - in our area there keen to match Euro CP.