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Central Convenience Module Swap
« on: February 09, 2015, 07:15:17 am »
Hello,

I am interested in swapping my CCM with a high end one.
I have the following code 1K0 959 433 AJ (2 doors).

Now, I couldn't find any exact data as to what codes fit my car.
From a previous topic (here) I found out the 2/4 doors module work for cars from MY 2007 onward. I have a MY 2008 car. So I should be fine.
But, there are a lot of different variations to a code...

For example, 1K0 959 433 BT can have Software 202 or 203 or 204. It may also have 42W or 50W.

So, than, my questions are the following:

1. What are the high end codes I/we should look for?
2. What other information about the new CCM should concern us (except the code)?
3. Is it better to have a CCM older or newer than the one installed in the car?

Thank you!

P.S. Here is a very good DIY about changing the CCM
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 12:16:50 pm »
End letter is all that matters and whether its for 2 or 4dr vehicles. Make sure you get UK/EU one with 434MHz freq for our remotes. US have different frequency.

I had a BT 2dr version which I just sold! Would have kept it for you had I known earlier! :sad1:

Hope that helps you Vlad!

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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2015, 01:09:48 pm »
Cheers Omar!  :notworthy:

I guess this is ok, right?

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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2015, 06:46:00 pm »
Quote from: rex on February 10, 2015, 01:09:48 pm
Cheers Omar!  :notworthy:

I guess this is ok, right?



Yep thats fine. Say 2 Tuerer (2dr) and MAX (highline)

Will need to reprogram lock/unlock on key fob, transfer coding with VCDS and then job done! Enjoy your extra convenience menu  :happy2:

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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 07:18:14 am »
Omar, all the CCM I saw on ebay (my code included) have "MAX" written on them.
Are you sure that MAX = highline?
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 10:23:04 am »
Quote from: rex on February 11, 2015, 07:18:14 am
Omar, all the CCM I saw on ebay (my code included) have "MAX" written on them.
Are you sure that MAX = highline?

Sorry I didnt know that, I take that back. BT is a highline part number though.

See this thread: BK 2dr version is used here:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67849.0
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 03:28:24 pm »
Thanks Omar!
Ordered the CCM, hope it works  :happy2:.
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 04:25:27 pm »
No problemo!  :smiley:
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 04:57:28 pm »
Well, I installed the new CCM today.
The hardware installation is fairly simple (I used this tutorial).

Old:


New:


But coding the new Central Convenience Module was quite difficult.
By seeing @kevinm coding (in this topic), I got mine working. I modified a few information (like LHD/RHD) and a few other bits but the majority is the same.
Still, I can't access the comfort menu  :sad1:

From what I read, I have the highline Convenience/Comfort Control Module (CCCM), the highline Central Electronics Control Module (CECM) and highline Instrument Cluster.
Isn't this enough?
Do I also need the MFSW steering wheel computer?

Here is a full scan of my car:

VCDS Version: Release 11.11.0
Data version: 20111111

Saturday,21,February,2015,17:59:55:37412

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W161242   Mileage: 51150km/31783miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CAX)       Labels: 03C-906-022-CAX.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 022 J    HW: 03C 906 022 J
   Component: MED17.5.20      G   9471 
   Revision: D3H05---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 10133 599 10455
   VCID: 234F9E28E2CEE76

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105 
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3F8732586E66A36

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ER    HW: 5K0 907 044 ER
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112 
   Revision: 00001004   
   Coding: 0000000004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7F077258E6E6636

2 Faults Found:
13701456 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 50 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 18
                    Reset counter: 174
                    Mileage: 51147 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:17:25

9479189 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 15 [009]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Reset counter: 174
                    Mileage: 51147 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:17:25


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000007715124
   Coding: 910C0E070004100F47140000140000000008BF0F3C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200
   VCID: 71E3A46068B2056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 301007 021  0501 
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 12345 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 37 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300 
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1K0SS/ 
   Coding: 0013111
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 3D7B4850646AB16

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BN    HW: 1K0 953 549 BN
   Component: J0527           051 0100 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 7F0772582EE6636

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 B    HW: 1K6 920 874 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2416 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 10133 599 90748
   VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052 
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 211007F2001627
   Coding: E9801F060002020000
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 30656164A3384CE

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 B    HW: 1K6 920 874 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 2416 
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G93NP08Z
   Shop #: WSC 28283 001 1048576
   VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 387559444B4894E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.068 H08 1901 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 356B50705C5A696

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204 
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 98900A085103087F2D0285057008CA0180B800
   Shop #: WSC 00066 785 00200
   VCID: 830F7EA8C20E876

   Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207 
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 39735C4070428D6

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 A    HW: 3C8 035 195 A
   Component: Radio RCD510  040 0166 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3K8982139
   Coding: 0101000001
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 2649873C51FC12E

2 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 173
                    Mileage: 51147 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:17:43

02877 - Digital Radio Antenna (R183)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 173
                    Mileage: 51147 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:17:43


End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------


Any advice is much appreciated  :notworthy:
@Eddie-NL , @omeydz  any thoughts?

P.S. The errors I get are from the Mk6 Climate control and the missing Air Quality Sensor, and from the small antenna I have fitted. So never mind these :)
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2015, 07:36:30 am »
Nobody?  :sad1: :sad1:
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2015, 08:10:23 am »
We're you able to access the menu on the old module?
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 08:34:44 am »
No, because the old module was midline and did not have that capability.
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 08:44:13 am »
have you made sure your coding looks like this for byte 18



sorry just checked your coding and its same as mine at the end

was the highline instrument cluster standard or have you had that changed as well

why did you find it hard to program it? what specific things did you change you mention rhd lhd you should just be able to program it quite easily?
« Last Edit: February 24, 2015, 09:05:00 am by SI-R32 »
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2015, 09:34:48 am »
Thanks for your post!
Yes, it is looking just like that.

It was difficult to code because I had a VCDS clone and I don't see all the bits (just like you see in the printscreen you posted where bits 0-4 are not visible).
First I went on each page and modified the coding by adding the same ticks as my previous one (I made screenshots of the original coding).
This ended in a wrong coding where, if I close the doors, the boot would pop open. When opening the boot the gas cap would also open.  :confused:
Than I deleted all the bytes and only ticked the ones I had. This resulted in not being able to open the boot at all  :grin:

Than, in the end, I copied kevinm's coding, made the RHD-LHD modification, boot pop and the last byte (he had fast scrolling active).
His coding: 989002085103087F2D0285057008DAC6909840
My coding: 98900A085103087F2D0285057008CA0180B800
Now everything is functional and as it was but I still don't have the Comfort Menu available  :sad1:.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2015, 09:37:59 am by rex »
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Re: Central Convenience Module Swap
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 10:00:09 am »
sometimes unticking the box alone won't allow the convenience to work

in the coding box
copy the whole coding from the box and paste it in the box below
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