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Offline irish_ram

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Engine Management Light
« on: September 14, 2015, 10:54:57 pm »
So on driving to Brands Hatch yesterday from Nottingham my Engine Management Light came on.

The car felt fine and was just the light so no display and warning on the display.

Looking like I will have to take it to the garage but did have no choice but to drive it back to Nottingham today and apart from the light it was fine and no other warnings or issues.

So was wondering would VCDS show anything up?

Also I topped up with Engine Oil the day before I drove down so wondering if this could have caused an issue as seems a bit of a coincidence?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 06:52:04 am »
VCDS will tell you the specific Faculty causing the EML.
Si you hace a decat or sports exhaust?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 05:50:32 pm »
Quote from: Flyingscotsman on September 15, 2015, 06:52:04 am
VCDS will tell you the specific Faculty causing the EML.
Si you hace a decat or sports exhaust?

So have done a scan nad quite a few errors but 2 for the Engine which I presume is causing the EML to come on. Gong to check on Rosstech but not got any ideas about these faults or the others that seem to have cropped up. I have cleared all DTC's and re-ran and they all came back.And I have a standard GTI exhaust with nothing modified on it

VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20070101

Tuesday,15,September,2015,17:48:05:62939

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7W127424   Mileage: 114470km/71128miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 L    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030 
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
   Coding: 040300031C070060
   Shop #: WSC 00717 210 83406
   VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A

2 Faults Found:
012600 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P3138 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 113405 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:16:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1205 /min
                    Load: 14.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 67.0°C
                    Temperature: 51.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.811 V

000017 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P0011 - 004 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 113685 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:23:33

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2823 /min
                    Load: 24.7 %
                    Speed: 114.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 79.0°C
                    Temperature: 17.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 02E 300 044 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1301 
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000610211355
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 264310139112D62ECEF-8073

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101 
   Revision: 00H11001   
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73E539471240F386991-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909 
   Revision: 00090016    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70EF364B6356C89E643-8025

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
            002 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002 
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000005961051
   Coding: E78F8F2700041500471400001400000000087F075C0001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200
   VCID: 6CD7223B4F7E2C7E58B-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E
   Component: Wischer 151106 020  0501 
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 12345 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AB
   Component: RLS     201106 020  0105 
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 12345 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300 
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD0VZ57+ 
   Coding: 0013112
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3D71DF7F648475F6BF5-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME145B45034

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME145B4724A

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME18643B01B

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME1A13147DI

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
   Component: J0527           636 0070 
   Coding: 0012112
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 8109E38FD8FC51161BD-80D4

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 973     HW: 1K6 920 973
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610 
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
   Coding: 0005403
   Shop #: WSC 65536 645 12345
   VCID: F0EFB64BE356489EE43-80A5

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H04 0020 
   Revision:   H04 02    Serial number: 201106F1001388
   Coding: 7F0F034807000001
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A

1 Fault Found:
01300 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
            004 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 114478 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:44:26


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0984 
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 387FCE6B4BA650DE6C3-806D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 3561C75F5CB4ADB6775-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0203 
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 999002085103087F2D048F0F7008DAC690B800
   Shop #: WSC 01206 210 105861
   VCID: 8305E987C2E04306091-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
   Component: Neigungssensor  001 0101

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178
   Component: Innenraumueberw.001 0101

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0984 
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3979CB6F70AC49D693D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: F4E7BA5B974E74BE00B-80A1

1 Fault Found:
01539 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
            005 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
   Component: Radio BVX       016 0023 
   Coding: 0040402
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3365F94752C0B386591-8066

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 05:57:20 pm »
So for the important engine ones as not concentrating on the others for now it suggests the below. Anyone be able to guide me as to what, where and how I would check these things as have not got a clue really what to check

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16395/P0011/000017

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/19594/P3138/012600
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 06:42:19 pm »
Not sure if it has anything to do with it but on inspecting my Engine bay I noticed the below connections looking dodgy. However on the pic where they are marked out this was a pic taken a few weeks ago and no errors then so not sure if connected.







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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 06:50:44 pm »
So after a bit of searching I found that the pic I have stuck up with the damaged connection on the right of engine is the N205 Valve if not mistaken.

So my car did or does not have any symptoms that I can tell since the the EML light came on so it is maybe a case this connection is the issue with the damage. If so can I run the car until I get it fixed or will this start causing major issues?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 07:14:55 pm »
Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.

Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 07:27:13 pm »
Strange for that type of damage to just happen - have you had the vehicle in for repair work,timing chain perhaps?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 07:29:17 pm »
Quote from: v4rley on September 15, 2015, 07:14:55 pm
Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.

Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?
That connector looks nasty. But could it cause all those errors?
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 07:41:27 pm »
Quote from: v4rley on September 15, 2015, 07:14:55 pm
Yep looks like the N205 is to blame for the first one, that's second circled is just conduit for the coil pack harness.

Have you followed the Ross-tech and tried a basic setting?

Cheers, any idea on how much a replacement valve would cost and is it easy to fit.

I am going to try the basic settings now and see what it says

The only thing I can think is it may have been my fault as I cut my engine cover to fit my new CAI and I am wondering if somehow when I fitted back it cut against it but not sure.
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 07:44:56 pm »
I'm no expert be any means  :laugh: thing is the two metal pins are still intact but not sure how secure the connect will be to hold in place
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2015, 08:12:14 pm »
Quote from: v4rley on September 15, 2015, 07:44:56 pm
I'm no expert be any means  :laugh: thing is the two metal pins are still intact but not sure how secure the connect will be to hold in place

So reconnected the N205 valve as best I could but the pins still in contact but will need a new valve unless I can work my magic with some glue as it is the plastic that's damaged but pins are fine

Also ran the basic settings but it said wait until field 4 says "ADP. O.K" however mine stayed at saying "TXT 000 002".

However on doing both the above, cleaning codes and scanning the car again the Engine faults were gone and EML not there anymore  :laugh:

So seems to have sorted it until I can replace the N205 Valve. Is this valve important as in I probably wont be able to replace for a couple of weeks and if connection does totally go will it cause any problems?

Now I just got to look into the other less serious problems  :confused:
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 08:29:44 pm »
Well at least your making some progress.

The n205 is easy to change, just two torx screw holding it in. Part number for it is 06f 109 257 c

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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2015, 08:37:29 pm »
It's changes the cam shaft timing to aid starting and many others issues eg EGR but short term it will be ok to run with it disconnected.
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Re: Engine Management Light
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2015, 08:47:31 pm »
Quote from: doylebros on September 15, 2015, 08:37:29 pm
It's changes the cam shaft timing to aid starting and many others issues eg EGR but short term it will be ok to run with it disconnected.

Nice one,

At the moment the connection is staying as EML light off however I imagine with the car driving and go over bumps etc it may come loose. Seems they are quite costly to replace and the connectors are fine but the plastic covering is damaged. So I reckon I could easily fix this as a temp measure for now
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