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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2009, 12:49:03 pm »
I'm guessing Milltek use 200 cel cats then.  :smiley:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2009, 01:13:22 pm »
yeh the Blueflame is a 100 cell cat so would deffo light up the dash. Im curious if running stage 1 with a miltek 200 cell,  would you get a lot more horses going to stage 2 software? 
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2009, 01:14:45 pm »
Will the 100 cell pass an MoT and therefore be worth the money? 100 cell is a race cat IIRC?
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 01:25:08 pm »
I was told that it would pass but don't know for sure
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2009, 01:27:37 pm »
Info about the BF cat here:
http://www.blueflameperformance.com/cats.php

They say it conforms with emissions standards.
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2009, 05:26:10 pm »
Quote from: revo carl on December 23, 2009, 11:50:23 am
this all depends on what CAT you're running, a 200cell CAT will not throw a CEL

a 100cell or a de-cat will throw a CEL.

99% of the systems on the market with a "sports CAT" will be fitted with a 200cell cat unless specified!


Hope this helps!
I WONT BE GOING  any more than stage 1 so am i best not fitting the down pipe and cat ?
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2009, 05:33:12 pm »
if thats the case id go for an induction kit and stage 1 then IMO
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2009, 05:42:42 pm »
but surely its not worth getting the induction kit either ? my ed 30 with custom code was brilliant apart from traction on damp roads so stage 1 on the S3 will be plenty for me  :smiley:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2009, 06:59:44 pm »
Seems a bit pointless getting the dp but not stage 2, why are you thinking of buying it if you dont want any more power?

When I had my dp and sports cat fitted I drove home on a stage 1 map and could feel the difference for sure  :happy2:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2009, 08:19:14 pm »
not really it will let the engine breath better for sure , dont want to go any further than stage 1 cause , 1 ; plenty of power for me , custom code is a great stage 1 map and un like the ed30 it will be useable in the S3  , 2: i want to keep my clutch !!!!
i m not a figures type (bhp) i know when a car feels right and imo CC stage 1 power delivery in the 2.0 tfsi is brilliant , ive been in stage 2 + cars and they may just have an edge but nothing to write home about  :tree:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2009, 08:33:11 pm »
Quote from: candy turbo on December 23, 2009, 05:42:42 pm
but surely its not worth getting the induction kit either ? my ed 30 with custom code was brilliant apart from traction on damp roads so stage 1 on the S3 will be plenty for me  :smiley:

An induction kit will still give you gains even at stage 1.  I fitted my CAI at stage 1 and driving wise I can feel a noticable difference in the top end.  From logging I can see that it has given me gains throughout the rev range  :happy2:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2009, 08:48:54 pm »
Quote from: candy turbo on December 23, 2009, 08:19:14 pm
not really it will let the engine breath better for sure , dont want to go any further than stage 1 cause , 1 ; plenty of power for me , custom code is a great stage 1 map and un like the ed30 it will be useable in the S3  , 2: i want to keep my clutch !!!!
i m not a figures type (bhp) i know when a car feels right and imo CC stage 1 power delivery in the 2.0 tfsi is brilliant , ive been in stage 2 + cars and they may just have an edge but nothing to write home about  :tree:

The thing is I do not think stage 2 would be any harder on your clutch, in fact it may be a little easier on it  :grin:

Let me explain -
Torque is what kills clutches and the time a clutch will be under the most strain is when you go WOT in a high gear at low revs.  The standard exhaust creates more back pressure on the turbo than an upgraded 3" exhaust.  This extra back pressure means the engine will actually make more torque at lower revs than an upgraded exhaust.  An upgraded exhaust will make better top end power and at this point the clutch will not be under so much strain.

Stage 2+ is a different ball game however as the uprated HPFP allows much better mid range torqe due to their being no fuel delivery limitations.

My advice would be that if you want a DP then get stage 2 as well.  Anybody with a remapped car should try to hold back from flooring it in 4/5/6th gear at  low revs in order to preserve the clutch.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 08:50:48 pm by KRL »
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2009, 09:10:59 pm »
Very useful info about the downpipe... Mine is on order... how much power gain will I get if I was to go for the HPFP as well...
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2009, 09:13:40 pm »
You have to pay full wack to go stage 2 with custom code don't you? Another thing to bear in mind...
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2009, 09:32:30 pm »
Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on December 23, 2009, 09:10:59 pm
Very useful info about the downpipe... Mine is on order... how much power gain will I get if I was to go for the HPFP as well...

Peak figures wise you would probably gain no more then 10bhp and 10 torques.  The gains come in the midrange where they will be up by around 30 bhp and 30 torques  :happy2:
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