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Offline candy turbo

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milltek tbe with out map !!
« on: December 22, 2009, 06:43:36 pm »
i ve been reading on a lesser forum to this one about guys having problems when they ve fitted the milltek down pipe and cat with the idle being very lumpy !! it seems the only way to cure this is to re map . any one on here experienced this ?????? :santa:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2009, 06:51:10 pm »
Ran my Ed 30 for seceral weeks on the standard map with a TBE.

No problems whatsoever.  :smiley:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2009, 06:54:55 pm »
i am planning on a re map but wanted to wait a while after fitting rest of the milly  :happy2:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 07:03:32 pm »
Quote from: Hedge on December 22, 2009, 06:51:10 pm
Ran my Ed 30 for seceral weeks on the standard map with a TBE.

No problems whatsoever.  :smiley:

Sorry to thread jack but was there any noticeable improvement to the way the car performed with a TBE on the standard map? It's highly likely I'll be going a similar route.
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 07:07:22 pm »
apparently there is a sensor on the oem downpipe /cat that is nt on the milltek , has  any one fitted one them selves to see this ?
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 07:28:47 pm »
Quote from: animal on December 22, 2009, 07:03:32 pm
Sorry to thread jack but was there any noticeable improvement to the way the car performed with a TBE on the standard map? It's highly likely I'll be going a similar route.

Probably a little but the car had been mapped before so I couldn't really tell.  :ashamed:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 07:51:43 pm »
Quote from: candy turbo on December 22, 2009, 07:07:22 pm
apparently there is a sensor on the oem downpipe /cat that is nt on the milltek , has  any one fitted one them selves to see this ?

The only sensor in the downpipe/CAT is the O2 sensor, which swaps straight over, or did on my 08 model year S3.  You just cant swap it back as it welds itself into the SS exhaust.  

Ref the original question, I have heard this(but not sure where from), but Ive always mapped first, before exhausts anyway.  Give Charlie at Milltek at call, he is very helpful and certainly answer your question.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 08:41:14 pm by Oli »
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 08:32:07 pm »
You get little performance increase with a dp on a standard car. That being said, iirc RR ran a full tbe on his car for quite a while without any issues.
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 10:43:45 pm »
The O2 sensor will likely throw a CEL with the standard map and stage 1 map if you have a DP fitted which will cause the car to go into limp mode.  This is because the o2 sensor will think there is a problem with the exhaust as it will be flowing much more exhaust gas than the OEM due to the larger diameter size and the sports cat.

Stage 2 maps from REVO and APR etc stop this CEL from being generated.  Happy days.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 10:47:22 pm by KRL »
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 10:51:55 pm »
Hedge fitted his and got no cel. On the GTI most of the ones that i have come across including my own brought the cel light on but the car never went into limp mode.  :happy2:

Also Ian, with mine their was a noticable improvement just with the zorst. A bit more power for sure. It felt like mine had a blocked nose then with the zorst all was breathing freely.  :happy2:
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2009, 11:50:08 am »
would any of this apply when i change my standar to an r32 rear with blueflame zorst-it has been mapped already??
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 11:50:23 am »
this all depends on what CAT you're running, a 200cell CAT will not throw a CEL

a 100cell or a de-cat will throw a CEL.

99% of the systems on the market with a "sports CAT" will be fitted with a 200cell cat unless specified!


Hope this helps!
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 11:52:30 am »
Quote from: matsu on December 23, 2009, 11:50:08 am
would any of this apply when i change my standar to an r32 rear with blueflame zorst-it has been mapped already??
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again as i posted above.... depends on what CAT you run, also depends on which level of software you're running... for example all our stage2 software fixes CEL's caused by high flow exhaust systems!
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2009, 12:01:28 pm »
Quote from: revo carl on December 23, 2009, 11:50:23 am
this all depends on what CAT you're running, a 200cell CAT will not throw a CEL

mine did?
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Re: milltek tbe with out map !!
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2009, 12:11:17 pm »
might have been a very free flowing 200cell on yours then.....?
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