Tornado red GTI R-Tech stage 2

Started by stuart-88, September 27, 2015, 06:55:13 PM

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stuart-88

Productive day! Helix clutch on, no more slipping which feels great  :smiley:




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Andy

you will be getting usage now of the stage 2 now with no clutch slip

AJP

I've got the Helix too, does a good job. It also makes me think I should get the best out of it and get a hybrid k03. Have you considered this? Or are you sticking with the k03?

stuart-88

Quote from: maxitrol on September 18, 2016, 06:37:36 PM
you will be getting usage now of the stage 2 now with no clutch slip

It's handy to be able to use all of the power I have!

Quote from: AJP on September 18, 2016, 07:59:08 PM
I've got the Helix too, does a good job. It also makes me think I should get the best out of it and get a hybrid k03. Have you considered this? Or are you sticking with the k03?

Who knows haha. Considering how far it's come so now it's a possibility. Any ideas on the price of a hybrid? From what I've seen the KO4 upgrade seems a cheaper option

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Paradox1

Looking decent. the detailing really makes a big difference.

I think it depends on what spec you want for your hybrid, remeber you wont need anything additional, just fit and forget

AJP

@stuart-88

Sorry for the late reply, I'm not getting notifications.

The hybrid itself can be had for about a grand, from Beach Buggy Turbos. Other brands are available, but they seem to be the best option at the minute, and preferred by R-Tech.

If you got all the k04 kit second hand, then arguably it could be done cheaper, but going that route throws in a few more variables. The turbo and k04 injectors might not be in the best nick, and you've also got all the pipework to swap, which is extra labour.

With a hybrid it's a straight swap, so no changing pipework, and you can even use your existing injectors. Niki mapped one to 360bhp and 377lbft recently, on k03 injectors:



You get a new turbo, there's less work fitting it, and you're not bringing used parts into the equation. Obviously you'd need all the supporting 2+ mods to hit those sort of figures, but you're not far off that, like me, especially with the clutch.

K03 hybrids were initially touted as producing k04 top end but keeping the quick spool of a k03 at low revs, but the more graphs I see the more the hybrids are pretty much doing the same thing as a k04 across the revs. They don't seem to boost as early as a normal k03, as much as it's a nice idea. I might speak to BBT nearer the time and see if they can build a turbo that's good for maybe 320-330bhp at the top end rather than 360bhp, but actually keeps the quick spool. I'm not sure if that's even possible, but I'd probably prefer that kind of power delivery.

I don't think there's a massive advantage or disadvantage to going either hybrid or k04, but to me the hybrid just seems to make a little bit more sense.

Paradox1

I think at the beginning of the years BBT was working on another hybrid which was good for 400bhp.
I think it uses TT420 internals but dont quote me on that.

Anyway before we start swapping turbos, which saved for a diff :driver: :driver:

stuart-88

Those are seriously good figures. I'm surprised and not having to uprate the injectors too! The price of a ko4 plus injectors probably isn't too far off the BBT if that's the case.

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