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Bit of Urgent Help please
« on: September 30, 2015, 05:20:02 pm »
So I have been having an issue where the connection to my N205 Valve was damaged on just the plastic which brought the EML light on. I reset the connection and done the Basic Setting and light goes off and everything feels fine.

So today my wife has just rang as she is driving the car and it is now juddering/vibrating in the engine bay. She says it seem to drive and accelerate fine etc but the engine is juddering and making a loud noise as you can see in the video hopefully.

Will scan with VCDS when she gets home but wondering what this maybe as I am thinking it is not connected to just a dodgy connection on the N205 Valve

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2015, 05:20:25 pm »

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2015, 06:05:28 pm »
Just investigating issues but this is what scanned below

Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 L    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030 
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
   Coding: 040300031C070060
   Shop #: WSC 00717 210 83406
   VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A

4 Faults Found:
000010 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P000A - 008 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115370 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:57:50

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2180 /min
                    Load: 20.0 %
                    Speed: 31.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 49.0°C
                    Temperature: 6.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000768 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P0300 - 001 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115658 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:39:43

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3758 /min
                    Load: 78.8 %
                    Speed: 73.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 82.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.478 V

000770 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P0302 - 001 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115658 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:39:43

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 3758 /min
                    Load: 78.8 %
                    Speed: 73.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 82.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.478 V

000772 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P0304 - 002 -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115692 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:37:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2437 /min
                    Load: 32.9 %
                    Speed: 34.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

Readiness: 0000 0100

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2015, 06:07:22 pm »
So the new error states the below

 16688/P0304/000772 - Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
Possible Causes

    Ignition system
    Fuel injectors
    Fuel pressure
    Running out of fuel
    EVAP canister purge valve
    Evaporative emission system
    Low compression
    Base engine problems
    Controle Module damaged

Special Notes

    This feature search for engine misfire in a specific cylinder. Most of the time the cause for a misfire is a lack of combustion in a cylinder due to absence of spark, poor fuel metering, or poor compression.

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 06:14:23 pm »
16686/P0302/000770 - Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
16688/P0304/000772 - Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
16684/P0300/000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
000010 - P000A - 008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON - Seems to be similar to the previous error I got when found the dodgy N205 Connection as in Camshaft Positioner (Bank 1 Intake): Slow Response

So the top 3 are all new errors so as states seems to be pointing at misfires. Would this cause the engine to vibrate as it is. And is there any way of me testing this as it does seem similar to an issue I had on my old TSI where they swapped the cylinders around to see if fault follows?

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 06:24:10 pm »
I'd change the N205 first maybe it's causing the other problems.

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2015, 06:28:56 pm »
I'd change the N205 first maybe it's causing the other problems.

That was my thought but even though I am no expert I am surprised I could reset and clear the N205 error with the Basic Settings and it drove fine.

Plus would that really cause the Engine to all of a sudden start physically shuddering and cause misfire errors.

Searching it says may be the MAF sensor or coilpacks but don't really know where to start

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2015, 06:32:35 pm »
I'd change the N205 first maybe it's causing the other problems.

+1

Then if that fails it's likely to be coil packs. Does it run fine until up to temp?

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2015, 06:37:25 pm »
So I need to test drive as happened when the wife was driving home today.

She says it started fine but was vibrating straight away but all that time accelerated fine and went up and down the auto DSG gear okay

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2015, 06:40:09 pm »
Test drive down to the dealers and pick up an n205 valve  :happy2:

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2015, 06:45:52 pm »
Test drive down to the dealers and pick up an n205 valve  :happy2:

Going to test drive it now but cost of an N205 is expensive plus I have got full years warranty cover so hesitant on forking out myself and not getting it back haha

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2015, 06:52:13 pm »
Flagging up random stuff now I think as a suggestion said unplug the MAF Sensor and test, did and no difference.

Plugged MAF sensor back in and now reporting


000256 - Can't Decode, CODE File Not Loaded!
               P0100 - 004 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115702 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 71.0°C
                    Temperature: 38.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2015, 06:58:35 pm »
So started the engine and in P it judders a hell of a lot. Less when in D Auto mode and even less when in Manual mode

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 07:10:59 pm »
Okay so done the basic settings on the Camshaft error. Scanned the car and EML gone and no error code, Engine reports ok.

Start the car and EML light still gone but car still juddering.

In more detail it seems in

P and N it is juddering the worst
In R slightly less Judder
In D Auto slightly less again
But in D Manual and S there is hardly any judder yo can notice

If put it straight back to N or P the Judder goes bad again

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2015, 07:16:00 pm »
My thoughts are you've got two problems:-

The N205 fault will give strange faults and the engine noise but not the juddering - I would be looking else where for the juddering in gear like coil packs - plugs or wiring to the coil packs.