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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2015, 12:06:14 pm »
It's the label files that are not being loaded, not a car issue but an issue with your copy of VCDS

Will keep an eye out later as i can't view any media on the works PC

Cheers Ill check more on the software side.

Screenshots attached of cylinder misfire and also the blocks that ran in the 90's

Explanation if you anyone cant see the screenshots

On 1st run where cylinder 2 was popping an error

Group 014 after a minute on idle started counting misfires in box 3
Group 015 after starting counting the misfires in box 2 for cylinder 2, others were fine
I swapped the cylinder 1 and 2 over and same results above but the misfires moved to cylinder 1 for Group 015

So for Group 90's it only found and ran 91,93 and 94 and results below

Group 91
Box 1 - Idle speed
Box 2 - 5.9%
Box 3 - 28.0*KW
Box 4 - 27.5*KW

Group 93
Box 1 - Idle speed
Box 2 - 22.6%
Box 3 - 4.0*KW
Box 4 - Blank


Group 94
Box 1 - Idle speed
Box 2 - 27.5*KW
Box 3 - TXT 000 235
Box 4 - Blank


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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2015, 12:34:49 pm »
Not sure if an issue but I realized I have ran this on basic Setting-04 and not the Measuring Blocks-08 option  :confused:

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2015, 01:32:35 pm »
So sorted the software out as seems the code file was not installing properly so dropped one in and now works  :happy2:

Re-ran the measuring blocks correctly and got the below results






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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2015, 01:45:16 pm »
Plus new scan with codes. Strange thing is it still reports Misfire on 2 but has also reported 1 after I swapped 2 to 1 which tallies more with the measuring blocks misfires

Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 L    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030 
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8211388
   Coding: 040300031C070060
   Shop #: WSC 00717 210 83406
   VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A

6 Faults Found:
012691 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
               P3193 - 002 - Open Stop outside of Valid Range - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:08:34

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 65.0°C
                    Temperature: 36.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.446 V

001602 - Sensor Reference Voltage A: Circuit
               P0642 - 002 - Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:08:34

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 65.0°C
                    Temperature: 36.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.446 V

000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
               P0300 - 001 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:09:31

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 763 /min
                    Load: 23.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 47.0°C
                    Temperature: 15.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

000770 - Cylinder 2
               P0302 - 001 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:09:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 809 /min
                    Load: 22.7 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 47.0°C
                    Temperature: 15.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake)
               P0011 - 004 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced) - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:23:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1177 /min
                    Load: 17.2 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 72.0°C
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

000769 - Cylinder 1
               P0301 - 001 - Misfire Detected
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:39:50

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 770 /min
                    Load: 18.8 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 76.0°C
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

Readiness: 0110 0101

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2015, 03:44:03 pm »
So removed all Coils and checked for damage but couldn't see any.

Stuck the suspected faulty Cylinder 2 one in Cylinder 4 location

Ran VCDS scan and now says in terms of misfire errors I have a random misfire and cylinder 4 so definitely this fault is following the coil. Also ran MB 014,015,016 and misfire's now showing on cylinder 4. The EML is initially off and then pops up flashing and then the misfires usually happen. Still not sure why the random misfire is on there or is this just standard.

Still get the below, could this be a false alarm and popping up due to the misfires or if not more tests or things could I check in relation to this apart from the 091,093 and 094 test I have ran which I dont really know what they mean or if they are ok figures

000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake)
               P0011 - 004 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 115706 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:20:15

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2361 /min
                    Load: 11.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 46.0°C
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2015, 05:59:03 pm »
So Warranty Company are messing about as the nearest Garage they could find was over an hour away and with a flashing EML light my thinking is that is not a good idea to drive it there.

Concentrating on the Misfire and if the Misfire is following this suspected faulty Coil whatever position I slot it in how likely is it that at the very least that is definitely at fault?

The question after that is there could be other issues but likely wont know until the coil is replaced?

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2015, 06:51:30 pm »
Check with your local dealer as coil packs have previously been getting changed under warranty if it hasn't already been done  worth a phone call!

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2015, 07:00:28 pm »
Check with your local dealer as coil packs have previously been getting changed under warranty if it hasn't already been done  worth a phone call!

Nice one,

I did see an article on it. Is there anyway of me telling they have been change and covered under a recall?

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2015, 07:19:33 pm »
Check with your local dealer as coil packs have previously been getting changed under warranty if it hasn't already been done  worth a phone call!

Nice one,

I did see an article on it. Is there anyway of me telling they have been change and covered under a recall?

This is what I'm lead to believe you follow:-

If you have a 2.0FSI engine and your coil part number is:
06F 905 115 F
07K 905 715 D/E
06H 905 115
06D 905 115 K
06E 905 115 D/E
06H 905 115
Then your car is OK and does not need anything. If it does NOT have one of those coils, then you need the newer coil.

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2015, 07:30:03 pm »
Check with your local dealer as coil packs have previously been getting changed under warranty if it hasn't already been done  worth a phone call!

Nice one,

I did see an article on it. Is there anyway of me telling they have been change and covered under a recall?

This is what I'm lead to believe you follow:-

If you have a 2.0FSI engine and your coil part number is:
06F 905 115 F
07K 905 715 D/E
06H 905 115
06D 905 115 K
06E 905 115 D/E
06H 905 115
Then your car is OK and does not need anything. If it does NOT have one of those coils, then you need the newer coil.

Okay so looking at mine

3 of them are 07K 905 715C and 1 is 07K 905 715F

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2015, 07:34:47 pm »
Think I found the same page as you and the 07K 905 715F refers to the 2.5l engine as okay as you see below so would this be an issue that I have the wrong coil?

If you have the 2.5 engine and your coil part number is:
06F 905 115 F
07K 905 715 D/E
06H 905 115
06D 905 115 K
06E 905 115 D/E
07K 905 715 F - THIS ONE!!!!!!
Then your car is OK and does not need anything. If it does NOT have one of those coils, then you need the newer coil.

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2015, 07:38:51 pm »
I've seen an article on this site about the issue complete with part numbers but can't find it!

Like I said call the dealer they'll tell you off you reg or Vin

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2015, 07:49:39 pm »
I've seen an article on this site about the issue complete with part numbers but can't find it!

Like I said call the dealer they'll tell you off you reg or Vin

I am hoping for some good news as seems at least 3 of my ignition coils are on the recall list. Wonder why 1 is a new version but for 2.5l engine or not sure that matters

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2015, 12:02:01 am »
Bit of advice here chaps as not sure what to do.

My current plan is to buy a Coil from Eurocarparts near me and test. If fixes then all good and at some point next week book it in for a VW Service and Coil recall if I qualify. If coil does not fix then drive to the garage authorized by the warranty for a Service(£180) and dig of the fault and go from their depending on what it finds.

However checking on VW I can get an Interim Service for £140 at my local VW dealership but until Monday. So I am going to ring them tomorrow about Coils recall and if they say it needs one and cannot fit me in until next week I will fork out for 1 coil to see if fixes my current issue and take the £30 hit and then if fixes I can still drop into VW next week for Service and coil replacement. If coil doesn't fix then drop into VW for service and then onto an authorised dealer for the warranty company

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Re: Bit of Urgent Help please
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2015, 07:30:31 am »