Brake upgrade help

[Mitch H]

The initial bite on the R32 setup is very good, better than my 4 pots.

But the 4 pot better right?
I'm looking into a brake upgrade for my stage 2 eddy and unsure what to go for
R32/s3 setup
Nqsbbk
Small 4 pot set up using ttrs calipers or toureg calipers

[rich83]

The stop better for sure.

[dansmith180]

Like Rich said the initial bite on the R32 kit is great but the real difference is in the last 30% of the pedal where with good 4pots your eyes feel like they're gonna pop out .

I highly recommend TTRS calipers with AKS/ DaveB adaptors and TTS 340mm discs along with some decent pads, gives good pedal feel (some may say a touch soft but I like it as you don't jerk in traffic). They stop like you crashed and the consumables are cheap. MTEC discs £140 decent pads £120 - £170, obviously there are more expensive and better options but still plenty of good stuff in that range.

[Mitch H]

Like Rich said the initial bite on the R32 kit is great but the real difference is in the last 30% of the pedal where with good 4pots your eyes feel like they're gonna pop out .

I highly recommend TTRS calipers with AKS/ DaveB adaptors and TTS 340mm discs along with some decent pads, gives good pedal feel (some may say a touch soft but I like it as you don't jerk in traffic). They stop like you crashed and the consumables are cheap. MTEC discs £140 decent pads £120 - £170, obviously there are more expensive and better options but still plenty of good stuff in that range.

Thanks for help mate I'm abit unsure wether to save the extra pennies to buy a 4 pot kit like the ttrs over the r32/s3 setup
Havnt got an endless pit of money and I want to do some suspension upgrades and a few other bits too!

[patpong_pete]

Like Rich said the initial bite on the R32 kit is great but the real difference is in the last 30% of the pedal where with good 4pots your eyes feel like they're gonna pop out .

I highly recommend TTRS calipers with AKS/ DaveB adaptors and TTS 340mm discs along with some decent pads, gives good pedal feel (some may say a touch soft but I like it as you don't jerk in traffic). They stop like you crashed and the consumables are cheap. MTEC discs £140 decent pads £120 - £170, obviously there are more expensive and better options but still plenty of good stuff in that range.

18Z Brembo are massive 6 pots
TTRS 4 pots both can use 340 discs
whats the better option ?
and what disks EBC and yellow pads or better options pls advice

[dansmith180]

Like Rich said the initial bite on the R32 kit is great but the real difference is in the last 30% of the pedal where with good 4pots your eyes feel like they're gonna pop out .

I highly recommend TTRS calipers with AKS/ DaveB adaptors and TTS 340mm discs along with some decent pads, gives good pedal feel (some may say a touch soft but I like it as you don't jerk in traffic). They stop like you crashed and the consumables are cheap. MTEC discs £140 decent pads £120 - £170, obviously there are more expensive and better options but still plenty of good stuff in that range.

Thanks for help mate I'm abit unsure wether to save the extra pennies to buy a 4 pot kit like the ttrs over the r32/s3 setup
Havnt got an endless pit of money and I want to do some suspension upgrades and a few other bits too!

It depends on your driving and whether you're going to track it, stage 2 eddy's aren't slow and need some stopping, however of your not too aggressive as a driver and don't plan on doing regular tracking then the R32 set up with good pads/ discs/ braided hoses and fresh fluid will get the job done. Its really those 105mph+ stops where the 4pots come into their own.

[dansmith180]

Like Rich said the initial bite on the R32 kit is great but the real difference is in the last 30% of the pedal where with good 4pots your eyes feel like they're gonna pop out .

I highly recommend TTRS calipers with AKS/ DaveB adaptors and TTS 340mm discs along with some decent pads, gives good pedal feel (some may say a touch soft but I like it as you don't jerk in traffic). They stop like you crashed and the consumables are cheap. MTEC discs £140 decent pads £120 - £170, obviously there are more expensive and better options but still plenty of good stuff in that range.

18Z Brembo are massive 6 pots
TTRS 4 pots both can use 340 discs
whats the better option ?
and what disks EBC and yellow pads or better options pls advice

I'm not sure between the 18z 6pots and TTRS 4pots, its not just about how many pistons but also the size and how it matches your car, the TTRS calipers are basically perfect from what I gather and match up very well with the MK5 platform.

Pads wise I havent tried EBC yet although the Yellow stuff pads will replace my Brembo Sport pads very soon.

Discs I really like MTEC as they're well priced and havnt had any issues with the 3 sets I've used from them.

Also I think the 18z calipers use a 350mm ML disc not 340mm

[rich83]

The 18Z are a bit oversized for the OEM GTI master cylinder. Going down that route really needs to be accompanied by the TTRS master cylinder upgreade.

[patpong_pete]

The 18Z are a bit oversized for the OEM GTI master cylinder. Going down that route really needs to be accompanied by the TTRS master cylinder upgreade.

i think mk6 Gti golf have better master cylinder ?
so what would happen with mk5 GTI type ?
also AKS/ DaveB TTRS 340 DISK adaptors is about £200-250

[dansmith180]

Adaptors are £250 and TTs discs are £150 odd, so about the same price as TTRS discs which arent very good but a 3rd of the price to replace and you can sell the adaptors at the end

[Shoduchi]

The 18Z are a bit oversized for the OEM GTI master cylinder. Going down that route really needs to be accompanied by the TTRS master cylinder upgreade.

I haven't read any bad feedback online about the 18Z from people who actually fitted them, just from others who look at the numbers that really don't match. The GTI can have 2 different sizes master cylinders, a 22,2 mm or a 23,81 mm.

Mine has a 23,81 mm that can be easily seen by looking at the part. My GT Sport has a 22,2 mm MC.

All mk6 GTI have the 23,81 mm MC.

MC list:
-22,22 mm (some mk5 GTI)
-23,81 mm (some mk5 GTI, mk5 R32, mk6 GTI, Golf R)
-25,40 mm (RS3, TT-RS)

My mechanic who is very picky with the mechanical work of every part was happy with the pedal feel and brake power of the front 18Z with the rear R32 brake setup.

In the end I got what I was looking for, a BBK that didn't required wheel spacers at the front, with OZ Ultraleggeras.

With the TTRS calipers I'd need a small spacer and I would have gone for the AKS/Dave B adaptors too (would increase the price of the setup).

Both setups can have cheap enough discs and pads.

[killer666]

you can also go with 6pot 17Z calipers with 330mm discs, the good part about them is that you can use them with 17inch wheels and the fitting is very easy

[Shoduchi]

you can also go with 6pot 17Z calipers with 330mm discs, the good part about them is that you can use them with 17inch wheels and the fitting is very easy

AFAIK the 17Z have even bigger pots than the 18Z (that have 3 different versions with different pot sizes).

[GTI_Kyle]

Brand new braided hoses come with the calipers as a deal anyway  what are peoples thoughts on drilled & grooved discs? Ive heard they crack quite easy?

opinions?

[Shoduchi]

Brand new braided hoses come with the calipers as a deal anyway  what are peoples thoughts on drilled & grooved discs? Ive heard they crack quite easy?

opinions?

Grooved discs are enough for me. J grooved preferably.