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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2009, 03:43:27 pm »
Hi Robin.

As ever its all about balance, recently had a go in an S3 that had R8 rear brakes on the front and S3 rears on the back, the reason for the comparison is that the R8 brakes have the same 4.95 cm/sqd piston area as your AP's and to be honest it just felt great

We've all danced this waltz before about whether or not its a worthwhile upgrade and I would say yes it is, when fitted the car definetely feels more stable and therefore inspiring more confidence. The Danza's of this world need the weight transfer to the front as it improves traction especially when considering that ultimately when passing or racing you will probably end up braking and cornering at some point which is something your average clubman track day slagger is told to avoid.

My point is the tyre contact patch is actually wider left to right than it is front to back so if you're really going for it you need the weight transfer that small rear brakes give you, invariably we want to go fast but not grow grey hairs at the same time due worry about stuffing it.....

I would say chuck em on and see, its an experiment, if it doesnt work out you've spent two hours of labour in getting them on.

If you were planning on taking advantage of the reduced stability of the smaller rears then Im guessing that you would need to change ARBs and tyre pressures etc to get that "loose" feeling.

Its all about driving style - If you try them on and dont like it I'll have em back!!
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2009, 03:57:58 pm »
If you brake in a straight line and then turn, buy bigger rears - if you trail brake and use oversteer, don't.

Simples.
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2009, 04:06:16 pm »
Nicely summarised......i do go on a bit dont I........... :sad1:  :ashamed:
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2009, 04:13:23 pm »
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:drinking: Cheers, guys  :happy2:

@ DaveB: They should be going on later in January. From what you've told me I'm looking forward to it.

Quote from: DaveB1970 on December 30, 2009, 04:06:16 pm

Nicely summarised......i do go on a bit dont I........... :sad1:  :ashamed:


....I'm glad you do! I learnt something from your post  :happy2:

@ TonyD: My well established driving habit is to always do as much braking as I can while the car is still straight - I'm a slow in and fast out kinda guy.

 
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2009, 04:27:58 pm »
There you go then Robin, get 'em on.

My style and car set up will be 100% different to yours - so using my car as a guide or comparison is useless to you.
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2009, 05:11:28 pm »
Cheers for the advice ! really helpfull  :congrats:

Anyways ive ditched the r32 brakes which will be for sale as soon as i recieve them and have decided to go for a more suitable brake which i wont have to upgrage in the future. Ive just purchased a set of AP 4 pots, 2 set of pads with floating discs.
This will hopefully be all the brakes i ever need for the road and track
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2009, 05:23:17 pm »
Can someone please tell me what brake kit TC has now??? Audi Disc's I think...... about 18"??? All I know is, at Halifax they looked  HUGE :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2009, 05:24:55 pm »
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@ Gobbler: AP Racing brake kits have a very well established great reputation - I'm not going to sit here and claim they are the best money can buy, but for fast road use and occasional track use they won't let you down. The nice thing about them is that they have excellent pedal feel and don't snatch but do progressively stop you!

I think you'll be very pleased. Enjoy! :happy2:
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2009, 05:39:13 pm »
yea i looked in too them for my m3 and they looked like the caliper of choice ! although ive noticed that a few companys were ditching them in the CSL race series for the Alcons.

These are are still probably one of the best brake kits available, so i reccon ill be more than happy.

Red - i noticed that you said you were on your second set. What happend to the first ?

The thing about modding with top end parts is that once you sell the car and rip off all the parts you still seem to get top dollar from them so its an investment really  :xmassmiley:
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2009, 05:58:24 pm »
Quote from: gobbleplease on December 30, 2009, 05:39:13 pm

Red - i noticed that you said you were on your second set. What happend to the first ?


....Discs wore out after about 50k miles (all road use) - Quite good imo and not unexpected. The pads lasted a similar time - I'm not heavy on brakes but always glad to be able to rely on them.
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2009, 06:31:29 pm »
People who man-brake choose Alcons.  :happy2:

Ha ha, only kidding. It really wasn't worth the extra £400 in your case. What pads are DT supplying, DS2500s?? You might want to look into some track pads, depending on how hard you intend to use them.
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2009, 06:54:29 pm »
that seems like they have pretty good life in them robin, when you said "second set" i thought you meant calipers  :surprised:


yea im getting 2 sets of pads DS 2500 for road and pagids for race
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2009, 09:09:34 pm »
Perfect... so long as you know you can't cross carbon ceramic pads and normal on the same discs. Some RBF600 and you'll be good to go  :happy2:
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2009, 09:20:03 pm »
Quote from: monte on December 30, 2009, 05:23:17 pm
Can someone please tell me what brake kit TC has now??? Audi Disc's I think...... about 18"??? All I know is, at Halifax they looked  HUGE :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

TC is running Audi B5 RS4 360x32 Twin pot calipers, dont think he's put too many miles on them but we're cautiously optimistic they are going to be a good setup and a good option for those with limiting rimmage
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Re: R32 Brakes.
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2009, 09:35:50 pm »
twin pot...im guessing that is one piston ither side of the disc or is it just two pistons on the wheel side of the disc, or am i way off the mark?
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