R32 Brakes.

[gobbleplease]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................................... Anyone fancy a set of r32 brakes then 

Bugger ! dont let me buy anything ever again with out prior consultation 

Right TBH if i was going to go for the high end brakes i think i would pay a little exta and go for the alcons. Although i would settle for the APs.

One thing is for sure though i will not be fitting spacers, So i think thats the porsche conversion out, can any one confirm this ?

I seen a a nice set on ebay last night which i nearly bought for £999 although they required 10mm spacers for the monzas !

Whats the sort of best, cheapest  (if that makes sense) BBK for the gti. Ive heard about the leon cupra brembos which i can get for about £1200 but im not sure how good they are, anyone know ?

[poko]

you just missed out on leon cupra brembo's.

Seat UK was cleaning its shelves, they sold them to dealers at 500 pounds , and on seatcupra.net one dealer sold them away for 650 pounds.

anyhow, it's just the normal GT kit. 320 or 330 discs with 4 piston calipers.

[VeeDubDan]

Djhorace has a set of Leon Brembos for sale.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9764.0

[tony_danza]

Gobble, if you're talking about the ECS type Porsche conversion with Cayenne 6 pots, then they're not worth the metal they're made out of for a MKV. They're show pony brakes.

What do you actually want the brakes to do? If you're looking for fast road and 1, maybe 2 trackdays a year, stick with what you have and pad/fluid according to your temps.

More? A few of my track day mates run a solid/4 pot conversion as the next step up, yeah they fade after a while but you just session accordingly - it's hardly ruining their day. A grand and a good cooling solution will see you right.

Lastly Alcons/APs/VWR and other BBKs yeah you're looking at big money, but look at any of the VW Cup race cars and they're all running a set of brakes from these 3 manufacturers (albiet not the 330 AP kit you get for the Golf, the 360/6pot for the 'rocco.). Why? because they do not fail. With these come a fair bit of looking after too, I've rebuilt my discs twice already this year, mainly because I'm anal, they didn't actually need it... but they're not exactly fit and forget. You do however get a good return for them 2nd hand, it just hurts a bit up front!

I might know of some APs for sale at reasonable money, but they're pukka race brakes rather than a road kit, so will need the seals changing every 12 months or so.

[gobbleplease]

Djhorace has a set of Leon Brembos for sale.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9764.0

thanks !

[gobbleplease]

Gobble, if you're talking about the ECS type Porsche conversion with Cayenne 6 pots, then they're not worth the metal they're made out of for a MKV. They're show pony brakes.

What do you actually want the brakes to do? If you're looking for fast road and 1, maybe 2 trackdays a year, stick with what you have and pad/fluid according to your temps.

More? A few of my track day mates run a solid/4 pot conversion as the next step up, yeah they fade after a while but you just session accordingly - it's hardly ruining their day. A grand and a good cooling solution will see you right.

Lastly Alcons/APs/VWR and other BBKs yeah you're looking at big money, but look at any of the VW Cup race cars and they're all running a set of brakes from these 3 manufacturers (albiet not the 330 AP kit you get for the Golf, the 360/6pot for the 'rocco.). Why? because they do not fail. With these come a fair bit of looking after too, I've rebuilt my discs twice already this year, mainly because I'm anal, they didn't actually need it... but they're not exactly fit and forget. You do however get a good return for them 2nd hand, it just hurts a bit up front!

I might know of some APs for sale at reasonable money, but they're pukka race brakes rather than a road kit, so will need the seals changing every 12 months or so.

It was the 996 turbo upgrade i was looking at, it came with all new parts and reconditioned calipers.

im looking for something that will see me few some trackdays, TBH i dont drive mental on the road, but get a little competative on the roads. I want a good brake that is not going to fade too bad. I reccon i will probably do 3 trackdays a year including a trip to the ring. I dont really want any issues with yearly seal changes either. Ive heard that those brembos that DJ horrace is selling are pretty good when paired with decent 2 piece disks and a good fluid pads, Could this be the answer ? I believe that no spacers are required too which is what im looking for !

I think this rules the AP 6 pots out too, as spacers are required.

[tony_danza]

996 kit isn't a bad option at all.

Buying those Brembos and then 2 piece discs (Badger 5 jobs?) isn't far off 330 AP money, which don't need spacers. You just need to buy from the right place, they can be had for around £1500-1600.

They'll do everything you need based on what you've said, have much better discs, better/cheaper pad options and be worth more come sale time.

[Janner_Sy]

the guy who mapped my car had the 996 calipers with merc 350mm solid discs, theyw ere bloody strong, he has also used the on track days and believes reckkons they were fade free, and ive seen how he drives, hes pretty aggressive behind the wheel, so id guess they were getting some abuse there.

[gobbleplease]

i think 10mm spacers are required for monzas and 12mm for pescaras with the 996 tbo brakes. I didnt really want spacers so that has sort of rulled these out, Although for £999 for basically a brand new kit i would of snapped them up.

yea ive sourced an ap kit for £1550 inc vat from - demon tweaks, But ive been speaking to dave and it looks like i can have a simelar kit for a lot less so here is hoping !

does anyone want to buy a lung,.............................................................. its ok i have two... ,

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

the guy who mapped my car had the 996 calipers with merc 350mm solid discs, theyw ere bloody strong,

Thanks mate 

does anyone want to buy a lung,.............................................................. its ok i have two... ,

Just FYI Im no longer taking body parts in p/x for BBK's, the jars in a row full of kidneys were a good talking point at dinner parties for a while....... now I just look wierd........now if anybody has a spare liver in swap for some Porsche Pagid RS29 Yellows I'd be interested.....too much Christmas spirits...

The 996 Turbo stuff on ebay was mine, its a great kit that fits straight onto an 8J TTS rim, a good strong kit with discs available from 80 quid, its also very easy to get daft pads for, Ive got Performance Friction 97's and 01's for that caliper as well as RS4-2 under my stairs. That kit went to Greece.....I was thinking about having a Reliant Robin Van signwritten up with Preston - Warrington - Athens on the side !!!!

Bryan you have PM (in 2 mins)

[RedRobin]

I think this rules the AP 6 pots out too, as spacers are required.

....I'm fairly confident that AP Racing 6-pots do not require spacers for the Mk5 GTI Monza's.

Otherwise it's exactly as others are posting: Horses for Courses.

[tony_danza]

I think this rules the AP 6 pots out too, as spacers are required.

....I'm fairly confident that AP Racing 6-pots do not require spacers for the Mk5 GTI Monza's.

Otherwise it's exactly as others are posting: Horses for Courses.

I think he's talking about the 360mm 6pots the 'rocco race car runs - as I'd mentioned them earlier in the thread. I'd be surprised if these would go under a Monza II.

Although your 330mms come in 6-pots too, don't they Robin?

[RedRobin]

....

Yes, my AP 330's do come in 6-pots and they fit both Monza 17's and 18's. I had the option of the 6-pots but am very happy with my 4-pots so far and am on my second set.

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

In addition the 360's weigh 9.5KG and are floating (not great for road cars) as opposed the bolted 330's which weigh 4.9kg ....... they weigh twice as much are they twice as good.......?

9.5KG + Bell = OEM R32 disc territory

[RedRobin]

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@ Dave The Brake Guru:

IIRC the R32 and S3 brakes are the same? By fitting the S3 rears am I negating my lightweight OZ unsprung weight advantages? [I haven't fitted them yet].