Engine Carbon Clean - Rolling Road Test

[FJ1000]

Finally got the video online:

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[FJ1000]

If trying to watch the vid on tapatalk, switch to web-view (top right menu with the 3 dots on my iphone) and it should work.

Could you please let me know if it still doesn't load?

[FJ1000]

Just a follow up on this in case anyone is still interested in the hydrogen carbon clean process...

As the RS4 was down on power, I took it to a specialist on Monday (MRC tuning in Banbury). Who tested it and diagnosed, you guessed it, carbon buildup. They took the manifold off to confirm their suspicions. Keep in mind that the hydrogen carbon clean was just a month ago, and the car had a full CC a year ago.

Pics:









After the clean:





And the result of a proper carbon clean? +44hp!



More like it! 

The grainy borescope images inside the Golf's intake hinted at the same thing, so no surprise, but was good to get a good look inside the RS4 manifold post-clean, and see the difference a proper clean has made to the power. I've sent my findings to EngineCarbonClean

[th3_f15t]

In terms of original HP, that's an initial loss of 10-15% BHP just from carbon build up! But ultimately, a proper strip down and clean is the only way to restore a very carbon-clad engine. However, I wonder if regular use of the cleaning methods tried will help slow the eventual build up?

[Dan_FR]

Posting to remind me to look later as I can't view any media in work.

Would love to know what the company come back with - I think they will just ignore you. I've commented on their FB pages several times asking for an explanation as to how they believe Hydrogen gas can attack a carbon based buildup...... Comments deleted

There's just no substitute for a proper manual clean, as any chemical powerful enough to dissolve all of that build up will do some pretty permanent damage to your plastic intakes, valves etc.

[th3_f15t]

From a chemistry point of few, getting carbon build up to react with hydrogen would create reverse the processes that left the deposits (i.e. hydrocarbons, such as fuel and oils returned back into hydrocarbons). In the simplest form, it would react back into Methane but this theory is flawed as you'd need a hell of a lot of excessive energy available to force the carbon molecules to break apart and then react with the hydrogen.

And methane is highly reactive so would almost instantly react again with any oxygen, which created water and carbon dioxide and, you guessed it, soot. Which, funny old thing, is a carbon build up!

[Dan_FR]

From a chemistry point of few, getting carbon build up to react with hydrogen would create reverse the processes that left the deposits (i.e. hydrocarbons, such as fuel and oils returned back into hydrocarbons). In the simplest form, it would react back into Methane but this theory is flawed as you'd need a hell of a lot of excessive energy available to force the carbon molecules to break apart and then react with the hydrogen.

And methane is highly reactive so would almost instantly react again with any oxygen, which created water and carbon dioxide and, you guessed it, soot. Which, funny old thing, is a carbon build up!

This is kinda the point i was getting at, pumping Hydrogen gas in to 'air' under atmospheric pressure will not provide anything close to the energy needed to force a reaction. The Hydrogen gas will do nothing other than be burned in the combustion chamber

Anyway at least the missing ponies have now been returned

[BalanceMotorsport]

firstly sorry for digging something out the dustbin. However it is the only way I think this post makes sense.
Then thank you to the OP and his work. I wrote about this recently after someone tried to flog me a £5000 machine. https://balancemotorsport.co.uk/carbon-engine-cleaning-does-it-work
I personally thought it was junk science as well. However having now researched this market thoroughly it does seem that some of the chemical products do work (after all we know over cleaner works!). I've yet to fully test (with boroscope) any method.
What I can say is water is the number one - i once drove a car 90 miles with a failed headgasket. It got through 27 litres of water. When I stripped it it was super clean. The engine just had a new HG and never missed a beat. This is important as some seem to pour scorn of water getting into an engine but in high humidity and at high rpm an engine ingests vast amounts of water.

The secret of course is not pouring a whole pint in at once...

So all you need is 27 litres of water and a head gasket failure :-)

[pudding]

firstly sorry for digging something out the dustbin. However it is the only way I think this post makes sense.
Then thank you to the OP and his work. I wrote about this recently after someone tried to flog me a £5000 machine. https://balancemotorsport.co.uk/carbon-engine-cleaning-does-it-work
I personally thought it was junk science as well. However having now researched this market thoroughly it does seem that some of the chemical products do work (after all we know over cleaner works!). I've yet to fully test (with boroscope) any method.
What I can say is water is the number one - i once drove a car 90 miles with a failed headgasket. It got through 27 litres of water. When I stripped it it was super clean. The engine just had a new HG and never missed a beat. This is important as some seem to pour scorn of water getting into an engine but in high humidity and at high rpm an engine ingests vast amounts of water.

The secret of course is not pouring a whole pint in at once...

So all you need is 27 litres of water and a head gasket failure :-)

Hey Julian, good to see you're still around!

Water wouldn't work on intake valves as well as it does in combustion chambers unfortunately, but it is a massive oversight that got past an unbelievable amount of engineers!  A motoring faux pas to go down in history!

Anyway, I have another suspension dilemma.  I might give you a buzz later.

It's Kev with the Corrado from years back btw.

[BalanceMotorsport]

HI Kev
do you mean the efficacy of water as a way of cleaning? I think i am going to get the steam cleaner into my 100k Fiat (sorry for swearing on here) and do some before and after shots / compression test / 0-60 times.
i can't sell it as a service as it's free to all but may be a useful endeavour.
julian

[pudding]

No water is good, I meant more from a temperature perspective.   Water would flow through the intake ports as water droplets and not steam, so not hot enough to break down the carbon.  Quite a few TFSI guys run water/meth injection and it has a very marginal effect on valve cleaning. 

[BalanceMotorsport]

No water is good, I meant more from a temperature perspective.   Water would flow through the intake ports as water droplets and not steam, so not hot enough to break down the carbon.  Quite a few TFSI guys run water/meth injection and it has a very marginal effect on valve cleaning.

wonder what a steam cleaner  will do ;-)

[Pesky jones]

No water is good, I meant more from a temperature perspective.   Water would flow through the intake ports as water droplets and not steam, so not hot enough to break down the carbon.  Quite a few TFSI guys run water/meth injection and it has a very marginal effect on valve cleaning.

wonder what a steam cleaner  will do ;-)

I could find out tonight... I have 6 (3 pairs) dirty valves left that need cleaning and a steam cleaner...

[pudding]

We could be onto something here boys & girls.....   one home shopping channel steam cleaner per port!

[FJ1000]

I wonder if that's all there is to these hydrogen cleans then...a mist of water into the intake manifold.

Would explain why they do f-all


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