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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2015, 02:49:12 pm »
Could Alex start some dialogue on behalf of you all with Pagid?

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2015, 02:50:27 pm »
tried to find a uk contact... seems like eurocarparts are the uk main point of contact.... id rather stick pins in my eyes then deal with them as a go between.... i want to speak to them direct

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2015, 03:16:58 pm »
Just in contact with with UK importer and technical partner for the RS range  :happy2:

See what comes of it.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2015, 09:33:09 am »
After hearing the feedback from the UK importer I would totally avoid the Pagid RS4-2 pads and also based on my own experience.
Would like to be clear that I have no issues with the rest of the brake setup and would recommend both it and alex every time.
just get either pagid rs29 or project mu's or some other pad.

apparently a track-biased pad is easily overheated when on a road car.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2015, 10:10:20 am »
Yeah. Not a hugely satisfactory response. Gonna let Alex take a look at them and hopefully demo the vibration to him take it from there.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2015, 10:15:44 am »
After hearing the feedback from the UK importer I would totally avoid the Pagid RS4-2 pads and also based on my own experience.
Would like to be clear that I have no issues with the rest of the brake setup and would recommend both it and alex every time.
just get either pagid rs29 or project mu's or some other pad.

apparently a track-biased pad is easily overheated when on a road car.
Something related to this became clear to me when I chose my new pads. The weight of the vehicle is a an important consideration.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2015, 12:00:26 pm »
I guess so, but our cars aren't particularly heavy.We are well over-braked for our cars. It's not like we're stopping bentleys lol

I'm just going to have to live with it and when I'm at Alex's getting the harnesses sorted I'll have to buy some new pads.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2016, 11:54:11 am »
A bit off topic,I payed £1250 for the vagbremtechnic discs with carriers & hel brake lines
How much are the discs alone


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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2016, 01:27:00 pm »
Just the rotors or bell and rotors?

Just the AP rotors are around 450 for a pair.

or reyland do some for 295. J hooked
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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2016, 01:44:53 pm »
Just the rotors or bell and rotors?

Just the AP rotors are around 450 for a pair.

or reyland do some for 295. J hooked
Rotors& bell


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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2016, 01:53:04 pm »
Dunno... would have thought about 950 maybe... speak to alex if you need a firm price.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2016, 11:04:52 pm »
Out in the car today.... same problem. I am wondering if wet and drying the discs would help

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2016, 11:29:44 pm »
I was going to do that but then I used Iron x and a stiff brush to clean the grooves which fixed it.

Annoyingly the problem comes and goes. It may be fine one day and then bad the next.
wet weather seems to cause more issues.

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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2016, 11:51:47 am »
I was going to do that but then I used Iron x and a stiff brush to clean the grooves which fixed it.

Annoyingly the problem comes and goes. It may be fine one day and then bad the next.
wet weather seems to cause more issues.

Yes,very true
Most of the times I get the vibration but somedays I don't get it


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Re: Pagid RS4-2s pad build up / vibration
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2016, 08:52:11 pm »
OK, to help...

What was your bed-in procedure? For a race pad, you need to be pretty much trying to kill them to get them to cure. You need to get them hot enough to 'burn out' the resin in the pad, looking at the cross section of a properly bedded pad, it should have at least half of it looking scorched.

If you haven't removed the resin, it'll just leach out every time they get hot and melt all over your disc causing vibrations. Some makes are worse than others, granted, but the same should apply for the same reason to any pad. You can remove this pickup with a garnet paper flapper wheel on a drill if you don't want to skim/regrind them. Don't use anything else, it'll knacker the disc.

Below is an image of someone bedding a pad on a dyno, you really do have to have them stupid hot, I used to have smoke billowing out of my brakes when bedding.

Latterly, were the pads of the right temp range for your car? Have you got readings from the brakes to know what range they operate in to select the right pad for your application?

In essence, the pads themselves were fine. Just maybe not the right choice for your car, and that's down to whoever recommended them or you not doing your research properly.



For the future, what level of cooling do you have? Ducting? Deflectors? Have you removed the stone shields?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2016, 08:56:54 pm by tony_danza »
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