Getting power down with stage 1

[flashp]

Michelin Pilot Sport 3's are better in the wet than supersports... Sounds like ecsta's really dont like the cold...

Are they?

I have PSS and have never for a moment thought I need a better tyre in the wet.
The silica in any tyre will harden as the weather cools. PSS function very well on the road under normal conditions, they also respond positively to track use where higher than normal heat levels will be present and more 'conventional' compounds can start to fail. Reasonably as well since they may never have been intended for that use.

I've not used PS3's so couldn't comment on those.

[rich83]

My MPSS are proving tricky in the wet, but the fronts are on the wear markers so need replacing soon.

[patpong_pete]

My MPSS are proving tricky in the wet, but the fronts are on the wear markers so need replacing soon.

Rich i thought everyone said these are the the best you can get
but i guess great when on track or dry roads but not so good when wet

what your next tyre choice rich ?

[flashp]

My MPSS are proving tricky in the wet, but the fronts are on the wear markers so need replacing soon.

Rich i thought everyone said these are the the best you can get
but i guess great when on track or dry roads but not so good when wet

what your next tyre choice rich ?

At the wear indicator no tyre will be any good in the wet. This is (or extremely close to) 1.6mm. Germany for example has 3mm, and with good reason. You simply cannot make an assessment on a tyre at this tread depth.
Arguably our laws here are out of date on this.

Google PSS wet weather reviews, you'll find out all you need to know. I've never had a tyre that will let you push so hard in the wet and when it does let go (eventually) it will do so progressively. I only established this on a track. To have done this on the road I would have deserved nicking. 

[Vwgtiking]

Apparently I am running 295ftlb.

[rich83]

My MPSS are proving tricky in the wet, but the fronts are on the wear markers so need replacing soon.

Rich i thought everyone said these are the the best you can get
but i guess great when on track or dry roads but not so good when wet

what your next tyre choice rich ?

Supersports again without doubt.

[AJP]

I don't think Supersports are 'the best you can get' but for road use and what they cost they're a damn good choice. You might have to spend an extra 100 quid a corner for an all round tyre that's head and shoulders 'better'.

I'm happy with mine.

[rich83]

They are the best I've tried except yoko a048,but they are defo not suitable for winter conditions

[AJP]

They are the best I've tried except yoko a048,but they are defo not suitable for winter conditions

Yeah they certainly lose grip once it gets down past 10 deg or so, dry or not.

[rich83]

Sorry I wasn't clear. The yokos are not for winter. Supersports are ok. Just not brilliant.

[AJP]

Ah I get you. But anyway, I do find the Supersports prefer a bit of heat. I didn't really buy them hoping they'd be brilliant in cold weather as I tend not to push things in cold weather anyway, through principle.

Found them really grippy over the summer though!