R5GTT'S Cars rapid

[r5gtt]

I know you guys are trying to help me and prevent disaster striking but the more I read into this I think it's a good idea.
Yes only two years into development but if the seller is running this without any issues this should be fine. I'd say it's like anything we'd buy off a tuner reputable or an unheard of company. people buy producys off creation motor sport and how many of you think their products have been rigorously tested?. I've brought many things off them in the past and all okay so far.


Please donr take offence as I intend to offend no one.

clearence at top of piston 0.001-0.00015
-deviation of circularity max 0.001mm
-370-450hb before rectification
-nitrided at depth of 0.15-0..25
-hardness of hv10-760-860 kgf/mm2 after nitriding
-34mocr11 stas 791-1988 special aged steel

Difference with CM is that pretty much everything they sell is a copy or rip off of somebody else's product, where the R&D has been done. They simply sell them cheaper as they have no R&D costs to account for, just production.

Those specs are simply manufacturing tolerances, what matters is the state of the pump they are being fitted to and how warn that is. If you fitted these internals (correctly) to a brand new pump then everything would be grand.

No offence taken, just offering friendly advice. Hope it works out for you if this is the path you choose to go down

Cheers @Dan_FR

Okay so the tolerances are the same as oem.
So let's say I paid for a different internal like many have sold on this forum. It would equate to the same issues as the pump will be a used one and that could potentially be an issue?.
Why do people buy these if they will cause issues?.

Thanks

R5 

[Pesky jones]

Well, here is a list.

1)LOBA/APR pump brand new
2)LOBA/APR second hand
3)Autotech internals in brand new pump
4)Autotech internals in second hand pump
5)Uknown internals in brand new pump
6)Unknown internals in second hand pump

There will be less risk the higher up the list you go, but the price will increase.

Ultimately its up to the buyer to decide what number they want to pick, based on risk vs price. So people have bought Autotech internals decided that was the right balance of risk/gain/price for them!

[MC71]

Okay so the tolerances are the same as oem.
So let's say I paid for a different internal like many have sold on this forum. It would equate to the same issues as the pump will be a used one and that could potentially be an issue?.
Why do people buy these if they will cause issues?.

Thanks

R5 

Then concider purchasing a new OEM pump and have the new internals fitted into a new pump by a reputable Specialised Indy garage.

......and keep your old pump to go back on to your car when/if returning to standard and sell on the newer pump with fitted upgraded internals. Peeps easily get £300 ish for Autotech internals pre fitted by a specialist in a new pump (new pump at time of fitting) when returning to stock.

 

[r5gtt]

I know I'll be taking a risk here but I'd rather go to the dark side and get one not knowing it's been tested by the manufacturer of the product with full money back guarantee unlike other companies.

[r5gtt]

Okay so the tolerances are the same as oem.
So let's say I paid for a different internal like many have sold on this forum. It would equate to the same issues as the pump will be a used one and that could potentially be an issue?.
Why do people buy these if they will cause issues?.

Thanks

R5 

Then concider purchasing a new OEM pump and have the new internals fitted into a new pump by a reputable Specialised Indy garage.

......and keep your old pump to go back on to your car when/if returning to standard and sell on the newer pump with fitted upgraded internals. Peeps easily get £300 ish for Autotech internals pre fitted by a specialist in a new pump (new pump at time of fitting) when returning to stock.

 

Now why would I do thy for when I'm
considering buying internal part the the pump or I'd just put two and three together and just buy a loba 

[Dan_FR]

What good is a money back guarantee (which I do not believe at all - good luck trying to enforce that with a Romanian 'company' that operates via Facebook!) when the failed internals cost you at the very least, a new HPFP and camshaft, at worst an engine!?

[r5gtt]

What I'm trying to say is failure could happen with any pump so theres no real guarantee with any of these pumps @Dan_FR

[Dan_FR]

True. I'm just a pessimist when it comes to cheaper or unproven products   

[r5gtt]

True. I'm just a pessimist when it comes to cheaper or unproven products   

I don't doubt you at all as you have invaluable advice when it comes to these cars and a vast knowledge of modifying.

I just feel this is right as other companies hpfp or internals can fail the same so I'm going to order this fecker tonight and get my  whooped by everyone who disagrees with me. 

[MC71]

Now why would I do thy for when I'm
considering buying internal part the the pump or I'd just put twould and three together and just buy a loba

You're learning! 

[Pesky jones]

Noone will slate you when if it fails, but I should imagine "I told you so" might appear 

[r5gtt]

Now why would I do thy for when I'm
considering buying internal part the the pump or I'd just put twould and three together and just buy a loba

You're learning! 

 

Noone will slate you when if it fails, but I should imagine "I told you so" might appear 

~ when ~   

[r5gtt]

Okay me being a stubborn person  I've gone an done it 

I'm not worried about the outcome as it's a learning curve and people do crazy things to thier cars and even though I've mentioned I don't compromise on quality.
I believe that  "Sometimes" it's the smaller lesser heard of companies that have the quality

[Shoduchi]

Good luck man! Since we don't know the outcome of this we can only hope for the best.

[r5gtt]

I'm confident that it will be fine @shoduchi and thank you mate.