Make a donation

Author Topic: Stainless decat downpipe issue  (Read 6797 times)

Offline Daled0111

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 26
  • -Receive: 4
  • Posts: 164
    • Email
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,95386.0.html
Stainless decat downpipe issue
« on: February 05, 2016, 10:42:05 pm »
i have had a 3 inch stainless decat fitted to my car for two weeks now and last night i short it was blowing and got it on the ramp at work today and saw that the downpipes bracket had snapped (as shown in picture)


my friend has welded the holes up and we was thinking about leaving the bracket off
would it do any damage if we was to leave it off
if it would anybody know what to do because the original ones are monkey metal (crap metal)
so is there a braket i can buy to weld on
any help is appreciated 

Offline rich83

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 165
  • -Receive: 801
  • Posts: 13443
    • MK5 Golf GTI
  • My Ride: https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19740.0.html
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2016, 10:45:59 pm »
I am guessing the wall of that exhaust is very thin hence it ripping a hole in it. why not get him to weld the bracket back on too?

Offline Daled0111

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 26
  • -Receive: 4
  • Posts: 164
    • Email
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,95386.0.html
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 10:49:48 pm »
I am guessing the wall of that exhaust is very thin hence it ripping a hole in it. why not get him to weld the bracket back on too?

because it will just do it again

Offline rich83

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 165
  • -Receive: 801
  • Posts: 13443
    • MK5 Golf GTI
  • My Ride: https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19740.0.html
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 10:51:39 pm »
Weld in re-enforcing pieces then..... or just leave it. Bit the bracket is there for a reason.

Offline r5gtt

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 342
  • -Receive: 334
  • Posts: 5586
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 10:57:08 pm »
Could that have been caused by not having a poly dog mount bush for reinforcement?.

Offline Daled0111

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 26
  • -Receive: 4
  • Posts: 164
    • Email
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,95386.0.html
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 11:05:07 pm »
Could that have been caused by not having a poly dog mount bush for reinforcement?.

i have a stock dog mount bush
i have heard about the bushes

so if i was to change the dog mount bush and reweld this back on then it shouldn't do it again

Offline rich83

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 165
  • -Receive: 801
  • Posts: 13443
    • MK5 Golf GTI
  • My Ride: https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19740.0.html
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 11:09:57 pm »
Hopfully not. look at picks of the BCS DP and look at how that is fixed, and get your welder to do something similar.

Offline r5gtt

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 342
  • -Receive: 334
  • Posts: 5586
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 11:31:32 pm »
Could that have been caused by not having a poly dog mount bush for reinforcement?.

i have a stock dog mount bush
i have heard about the bushes

so if i was to change the dog mount bush and reweld this back on then it shouldn't do it again
I would definitely recommend getting one fitted as this will stop the play in the downpipe bracket and hopefully prevent future breaking  :happy2:

Offline Powervalve Nige

  • Trader - 2014
  • Won't Shut up.
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 84
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 721
  • Don't get angry, get a beter argument
    • POWERVALVE
    • Email
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2016, 10:43:30 am »
12mm mild steel bar welded to 1.5mm wall stainless with two chewing gum spots against the torque flow... mmm that'll work, let me guess the flex is 4.00" long as well.
Winds me up   :sick:  when I see these pipes touted off flee bay at 'make me an offer' prices knowing that there's going to be pain down the road for genuine lads trying to tune on a budget...
Rant over  :mad:

Offline r5gtt

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 342
  • -Receive: 334
  • Posts: 5586
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2016, 12:24:49 pm »
12mm mild steel bar welded to 1.5mm wall stainless with two chewing gum spots against the torque flow... mmm that'll work, let me guess the flex is 4.00" long as well.
Winds me up   :sick:  when I see these pipes touted off flee bay at 'make me an offer' prices knowing that there's going to be pain down the road for genuine lads trying to tune on a budget...
Rant over  :mad:
Nige if your systems and cat backs pipes erc were cheap enough then I'm sure we'd all have a pop at them  :grin:

Best thing to do in with those cheap ebay stuff is to get them welded over for extra strength before fitting.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 12:26:58 pm by r5gtt »

Offline Beej

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 23
  • Posts: 403
    • Email
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 09:39:31 am »
12mm mild steel bar welded to 1.5mm wall stainless with two chewing gum spots against the torque flow... mmm that'll work, let me guess the flex is 4.00" long as well.
Winds me up   :sick:  when I see these pipes touted off flee bay at 'make me an offer' prices knowing that there's going to be pain down the road for genuine lads trying to tune on a budget...
Rant over  :mad:
Nige if your systems and cat backs pipes erc were cheap enough then I'm sure we'd all have a pop at them  :grin:

Best thing to do in with those cheap ebay stuff is to get them welded over for extra strength before fitting.
I don't normally pep up when there is an issue on forums, but I disagree with this. Powervalve systems are priced well I think, considering the quality in build, fitment, sound and service.

I hummed and hawed about whether to save and spend the money, but I can honestly say it was well worth it.

Also, as Nige is actively on the forum (and others I'm presuming), he takes on board any feedback and helps out in any way he can.

But even more so, the proofs in the pudding with the performance gains on his systems, just speak with a few top custom tuners who have had a few cars running their systems and comparing them back to back with others around the same price, and I can assure you they will tell you to put your money into the bcs/powervalve systems.

That's me! Sorry if I have offended anyone, rant over.

Offline r5gtt

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 342
  • -Receive: 334
  • Posts: 5586
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 12:58:23 pm »
12mm mild steel bar welded to 1.5mm wall stainless with two chewing gum spots against the torque flow... mmm that'll work, let me guess the flex is 4.00" long as well.
Winds me up   :sick:  when I see these pipes touted off flee bay at 'make me an offer' prices knowing that there's going to be pain down the road for genuine lads trying to tune on a budget...
Rant over  :mad:
Nige if your systems and cat backs pipes etc were cheap enough then I'm sure we'd all have a pop at them  :grin:

Best thing to do in with those cheap ebay stuff is to get them welded over for extra strength before fitting.
I don't normally pep up when there is an issue on forums, but I disagree with this. Powervalve systems are priced well I think, considering the quality in build, fitment, sound and service.

I hummed and hawed about whether to save and spend the money, but I can honestly say it was well worth it.

Also, as Nige is actively on the forum (and others I'm presuming), he takes on board any feedback and helps out in any way he can.

But even more so, the proofs in the pudding with the performance gains on his systems, just speak with a few top custom tuners who have had a few cars running their systems and comparing them back to back with others around the same price, and I can assure you they will tell you to put your money into the bcs/powervalve systems.

That's me! Sorry if I have offended anyone, rant over.
Hi, I'm sure they're very good as this isn't what is shocking EDITED AS I'M BEING SILLY

 but that's a lot of money for a few pieces of stainless steel IMHO.
I like modding cars too but paying 1500 for an exhaust system is ridiculously expensive. I recall these prices back in 1995 when I started reading fast car and max power mags. Not for the  :booty: lol for the escort rs rieger I fell in love with  :ashamed: :signLOL:

Anyone buying cheap fleebay buy it now or make me an offer for it should well know why it's so cheap and cannot really complain if things go bump IMHO  :happy2:I bough a bidding cat back 2.75inch exhaust system for £137 from toofast2cool and it wasn't to my liking due to the tip ends being slightly hammered  although weld was really good and sent it back for a full refund but wish I hadn't now  :stupid: as it was cheap.  :signLOL:
« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 11:12:59 pm by r5gtt »

Offline oisinc

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 9
  • -Receive: 13
  • Posts: 320
    • Email
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 10:58:05 pm »
@r5gtt Thats not what Nige is saying at all..
Best have a re-read and then perhaps edit that post  :happy2:

Offline r5gtt

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 342
  • -Receive: 334
  • Posts: 5586
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 11:02:58 pm »
@r5gtt Thats not what Nige is saying at all..
Best have a re-read and then perhaps edit that post  :happy2:
Okay I'm going back to the post now  :ashamed:

All done and apologies.  :drinking:
« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 11:08:27 pm by r5gtt »

Offline oisinc

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 9
  • -Receive: 13
  • Posts: 320
    • Email
Re: Stainless decat downpipe issue
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2016, 01:06:39 am »
Now I can feel the love!  :signLOL: