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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #375 on: March 23, 2016, 06:53:58 pm »
So fell at the first hurdle :signLOL:

Just tried to turn the camshaft to so I could put the cam locking tool in to tske the adjuster off but the camshaft will only turn once???
Turn in the other way.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #376 on: March 23, 2016, 06:55:42 pm »
Yeah I think I was turning it the right way, but I did try the other way as well with same result. It really doesn't want to go. I was thinking perhaps a piston in a cylinder is stopping it?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #377 on: March 23, 2016, 06:58:02 pm »
Yeah I think I was turning it the right way, but I did try the other way as well with same result. It really doesn't want to go. I was thinking perhaps a piston in a cylinder is stopping it?
Is it just the one cam you're turning?. try give it a bit of force...  turn the other one back to align them up?.
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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #378 on: March 23, 2016, 07:23:04 pm »
Yeah just trying to turn the inlet cam. The exhaust camshaft is set at tdc so the notches are already vertical, ready for the cam locking tool to go in, but the inlet camshaft isnt. Trying to turn the inlet cam so the notches are vertical as well and the cam locking tool can go in. Once the locking tool is in I can take off the adjuster and fit the chain and tensioner. Once thats done I can do a compression test.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #379 on: March 23, 2016, 07:31:40 pm »
Right I'm with you from before. if it's not turning and you're using extra force then the valves are bent and sticking I would say.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #380 on: March 23, 2016, 07:42:46 pm »
Yeah looks like it.

Although, because im turning the inlet cam, and the crankshaft isnt turning, perhaps its not turning becauese one piston is stopping it. As in if the crankshaft was turning then maybe it would turn...

It turned once and snapped down so the camlobes on one cylinder were pointing down. It was trying to turn past this point (bringing the lobes up of the valves) and down on another that it wouldn't turn.any.more
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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #381 on: March 23, 2016, 08:01:55 pm »
Turn the crank and settle pistons centre if you can.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #382 on: March 23, 2016, 08:21:31 pm »
Il have another crack tomorrow. Just turn the crank, try turn the camshaft again, keep doing that untill the notches on the camshaft are vertical?

Once the inlet camshaft is vertical and correct, keep turning the crankshaft untill the exhaust camshaft is lined up and I can get the cam chain on (providing the crankshaft and camshaft are at tdc) that make sense?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #383 on: March 23, 2016, 08:24:15 pm »
Or maybe just take the cambelt off and take the cam girdle off. Would I need to remove the cambelt pulley to take the camshaft out?

Or just go straight to removing the.cylinder head

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #384 on: March 23, 2016, 08:54:15 pm »
I'm confused as the cams should line up with tdc crank set in position  :thinking:

Try turning the crank and setting the cams as this should do the trick.

cam girdle off to take cams out :happy2:

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #385 on: March 23, 2016, 09:04:21 pm »
Well the exhaust cam does line up. But because the inlet camshaft isnt connected its spun out of synchronisation..I think.

I think I need to remove the girdle (can only see six bolts) and then possibly remove the cambelt pulley off the camshaft?

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #386 on: March 23, 2016, 09:29:04 pm »
The girdle has 14 bolts. I'd say the cam just needs a stern twist but I'm not there so can't say.
maybe you've spun it all wrong and need to spin the crank and inlet around again.


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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #387 on: March 23, 2016, 10:42:41 pm »
It's hard to explain, but I can make the inlet cam turn once, and it snaps into position, with the lobes forcing one pair of valves down, but then as soon as I go to turn it again it won't turn at all, which is strange because the next immediate part of the turn is releasing the lobe off the valves, and should turn easily before it starts forcing down the next pair of valves. I would have thought that if valves had bent then it would stop turning as it starts forcing down the next set of valves. Hope this makes sense.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #388 on: March 23, 2016, 11:03:20 pm »
Perhaps a piston pushed some valves back into the valve guides that's why it won't turn.

I think it's time to take the cylinder head off. What do you think @doylebros

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #389 on: March 24, 2016, 07:17:04 am »
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