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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #405 on: March 24, 2016, 09:43:24 pm »
I assume he's trying to loosen the adjust bolt and the tool has failed allowing the pins to splay apart which is letting the camshaft turn.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #406 on: March 24, 2016, 09:45:33 pm »
I didnt feel it give, it just never stopped the camshaft turning. It felt like if I kept turning the breaker it would spin the camshaft right round. Looking at it now the tool does look a little splayed :/ looks like I owe @dazza a new tool :(

@Dan_FR im trying to time it up and fit the new chain to do a compression test on it. Any other way of getting the chain on?

Also just wondering how il get the timing exactlY right. It like I could get it a tooth or even a couple of tooth out annd it wouldn't be obvious

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #407 on: March 24, 2016, 09:58:10 pm »
If you end up owning that tool off Dazza, take the tool to your local fabricators get the pins straightened up and fully welded and retry the same move again and it will hold this time.
Remember this time have someone helping,pushing against the bit, cause this time it will be your knuckles as the tool will not splay.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #408 on: March 24, 2016, 10:03:39 pm »
I bet the bolts holding the pins bent rather than the pins themselves.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #409 on: March 24, 2016, 10:04:57 pm »
Your Timing will be right if you can get the locking tool in place for the cam shafts (lobes aligned)and you set the crank and camshaft pulley marks (like you've already done) for the timing belt.
The problems your having is common even when doing this chain job as a service replacement request -  quality tooling especially item7 bolt removal bit is a must.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #410 on: March 24, 2016, 11:19:10 pm »
Looking at it, it is the little bolts that have bent dazza. Perhaps it's just a case of replacing them.

As the inlet cam is resting, the notches look slightly off tdc, as well as not looking completely parallel to the exhaust cam at tdc. If I turn the inlet cam slightly clockwise (normally anti clockwise I think) the tool gets more snug with no play. I then tightened the bolts of the tool to try and hold the inlet cam from springing back, but it didn't hold it and I had a mm or two of play again.

When I was turning the crankshaft I asked my mate to listen carefully for any noises from inside the engine as I turned it slowly, it was smooth and I think fairly consistent all the way round a few times and no noises like before with the broken chain. Am I wrong in thinking this could be a good thing in terms of piston to valve contact or damage elsewhere

Girlfriends going shopping tomorrow so I can work all day on it, want to make some progress  :signLOL: on a side note I passed my test a year ago today and bought the car three days before - could do with some of that positive thinking now.. :signLOL:

« Last Edit: March 24, 2016, 11:43:15 pm by Peskyjones »

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #411 on: March 25, 2016, 06:03:46 am »
i removed the head from my broken engine

cylinder 1 has no piston what so ever and the valves are bent

so sorry i don't have a head for you know
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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #412 on: March 25, 2016, 10:09:50 am »
Oh right thats a shame. Cylinder one has no piston?!
I might go down the route of grtting mine repaired.

I need to get some work done today. I need to get this compression test done one way or another. I think I might take the camshafts out to do it seeing as getting thr adjster off isnt working.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #413 on: March 25, 2016, 11:00:20 am »
yeah no piston just a conrod in the bore
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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #414 on: March 25, 2016, 11:00:31 am »
I might try to get some replacement bolts and have another go. As my previous post though, im not still not.sure if I get it to work that its a 100 pere cent lined up as it feels like the inlet cam can still turn a little
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 11:13:43 am by Peskyjones »

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #415 on: March 25, 2016, 06:42:24 pm »
Just thinking about getting the tool welded. I dont know if theyll he open tomorrow but il give them a try. 

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #416 on: March 25, 2016, 09:20:25 pm »
Piston must had detonated and exploded internally.  :thinking:

Pesky what's new buddy?. have you blocked me from messages as ive noticed everyone who messages me has their name along side but yours says guest?.  :confused:

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #417 on: March 25, 2016, 10:01:58 pm »
No.. at least I dont think I have  :signLOL:

Nothing new, I think I need to do the comoression test with the timing set up eg chain and tensiomer on so I need to get that tool working. Im thinking I might see if any welders are open tomorrow morning and go get the pins welded in place and try to remove the adjustor again.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #418 on: March 25, 2016, 10:12:16 pm »
Lol glad you haven't  :jumping:

Shi** man things haven't gone well but you know what?, you've done extremely well for a beginner I can assure you. not many would try what you're doing and I wish I could help by being there but time doesn't permit me to do this.
I'm off out the country next week and have to work the day before I go which is a beech as I wanted to relax too.

Hopefully you'll have it sorted soon mate  :smiley: there are some good knowledgeable guys on here to guide you along.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #419 on: March 25, 2016, 11:01:49 pm »
Chees mate.Tell me about it, without yours and others advice and guidance I wouldnt be anywhere near where I am today.

I want to get the cam chain on and do the compression test without further costs- coolant, cambelt, bolts etc. Although ill need to buy them at some point if.the head needs to come off

Hopefully I can get this tool working. Still not sure about timing it back up but ill worry about that once I get the adjuster bolt off