URGENT oil pressure stop engine

[doylebros]

When turning it over by hand it will become tougher on the compression stroke but if it feels really stubborn don't try and start it cause it will be just more damage to sort out.
If it does do two full turns with a ratchet and socket from the crank bolt then try starting it. If it runs switch it off and check the sump for oil leaks and report your findings.

[Pesky jones]

@r5gtt thanks mate any advice to keep costs down is much apreciated

@doylebros thanks, sounds like good advice!

[Pesky jones]

One thing I have failed to mentio (I hope I havnt screwed up) is that on the day of the incident, after I swtched the engine off when I came of the track I scanned it, which is where I got the code from. I then cleared the fault naively believing that it might sort it out. I scanned it tonight with VCDS and the fault hasnt come back.

Also as a side note, the car is in my girlfriends garage, and as im walking ( ) home past one of her neighbours, theyve just bought a lovely condition steel grey five door (like mine) and I have to look at it every time

[r5gtt]

That's like a slap in the face 

hurry up and get it back together bud 

[Pesky jones]

Me too mate me too.

When I had the ignition partially turned on to scan with VCDS, I heard a humming start for a while, I know its a long shot, but that's not the oil pump trying to take oil round again is it? Be excellent if it was because then it might start with fresh oil.

[pudding]

Nah the oil pump is mechanical mate.  Only runs when the engine is.

[Pesky jones]

Nah the oil pump is mechanical mate.  Only runs when the engine is.

Thought it might be. Oh well

I know I’ll find out Saturday, but its playing on my mind. If the issue was the pick up pipe, and the pipe is now clear,  is it even possible that the engine wasn’t starting because the lack of oil, and that when I try to start the engine, it will suck oil up after a 5 seconds or so and start? I know @Dan_FR doesn't think so, and I can see where he's coming from, the start up isn't bothered whether theres low oil or not, it will start regardless, so the reason its not starting is most likely damage of some sort. Just wondering what type of damage would cause it to not start??

Sorry for repeating and going over things already discussed, but I will shut up about it now until Saturday.

Thanks

[Pesky jones]

This sounds familiar...

http://www.passatworld.com/forums/volkswagen-passat-b5-discussion/320649-car-wont-start-code-p0011.html

[andy1979uk]

I had the same issue on the motorway, pulled over and stopped engine. Recovered home and towed to garage the following monday. Garage inspected car and no fault found. Asked them to drop sump and check pickup pipe upon which they found the oil pump drive chain had slipped and shredded to sprocket, lots of nasty metal filings swimming around in the oil. New oil pump is £900 plus fitting which needed a new chain and all 3 new sprockets. In the end went for a second hand engine and broke up current engine for good bits to claw back the difference.

[Pesky jones]

When I got the new oil yesterday, he only gave me a 5l bottle. I said I thought it needed more, and he said no its 4.6l for your car. Is this right?

[pudding]

4.7 litres with a filter change. 

[Pesky jones]

@Pudding thanks.

My dads mate is apparently a big petrol head has said he'll come look at it Saturday. Hes asked me to leave sump off so he can look at the "big ends "?

Im going to go with @rich83 suggestion of removing the valve cover and also the cam cover before he comes so we can look at valves under hand turning the crank. Hopefully see.if theres any damage to the cam chain.

Tonight im going to hand turn the crankshaft and if I have time remove the valve cover. Is it ok to turn the crankshaft with the sump empty? I wont leave the valve cover off when im done. Once again ill put a couple bolts back in to stop contamination.

Is it worth me doing all this?

[r5gtt]

No you can't turn it with no oil in the sump DON'T DO IT.

that should have been done before you dropped the sump 

[Markis236]

No you can't turn it with no oil in the sump DON'T DO IT.

that should have been done before you dropped the sump 

I don't see any issue with turning the crank with no oil in the sump as long as it's by hand there will still be a film of oil on all moving parts 

[doylebros]

Firstly it's not good practice but you'll be ok as the last poster quoted an oil film does remain trapped.

You need to turn the engine clockwise when looking at the crank nut - two full turns is needed so the camshaft has done one full revolution as a minimum.

Now it turned over and showed the characteristic of a healthy engine so that's looking very favourable.

Sleep easy and wait till your dads mate turns up - if he doesn't turn up go back to filling it with oil and trying to start it with the fuel pump disconnected(fuse removed) then watch to see if the dash red oil light goes out.
Then report back your findings.