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Going Stage 2+

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pudding:
On a track day on a summer's day that might be an issue, but in 90% of road driving scenarios, heat soaking an S3 intercooler would take some doing.

Dyno cells don't have anywhere near the amount of cool, fresh air going through the IC as the open road, so I wouldn't always take a dyno operator's word on IATs being too high.  They might well be, during 10 back to back power runs in a tiny little room!

And then of course there is the volume of the thing to fill, which can increase lag a bit.  That's why the S3 intercooler is only marginally bigger than the GTI one.  VAG focused more on improving the core than outright size.

I think ~ £260 for a brand new 6R/S3 intercooler from the dealer is a great upgrade & OEM quality, even on a K04 for stage 2.  Even better if you can find them on ebay for a steal!

Whilst the Peron, Welly boots, APR, Integrated Engineering & Revo ICs of this world have their place.... sometimes they're not necessary for the job in hand  :smiley:

croak2012:

--- Quote from: DANBOY66 on October 06, 2016, 05:15:43 am ---Your missing my point

Heat kills power

The s3 intercooler can make the power but when it's starts getting very hot after a bit of abuse the s3 intercooler begins to struggle with the heat

Then the ecu will retard timing making the car slower but still safe to cope with the heat

Dan


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--- Quote from: Pudding on October 06, 2016, 11:52:51 am ---On a track day on a summer's day that might be an issue, but in 90% of road driving scenarios, heat soaking an S3 intercooler would take some doing.

Dyno cells don't have anywhere near the amount of cool, fresh air going through the IC as the open road, so I wouldn't always take a dyno operator's word on IATs being too high.  They might well be, during 10 back to back power runs in a tiny little room!

And then of course there is the volume of the thing to fill, which can increase lag a bit.  That's why the S3 intercooler is only marginally bigger than the GTI one.  VAG focused more on improving the core than outright size.

I think ~ £260 for a brand new 6R/S3 intercooler from the dealer is a great upgrade & OEM quality, even on a K04 for stage 2.  Even better if you can find them on ebay for a steal!

Whilst the Peron, Welly boots, APR, Integrated Engineering & Revo ICs of this world have their place.... sometimes they're not necessary for the job in hand  :smiley:

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Could he  install the s3 ic and down the line if needed just add twintercooler on?
or is this total overkill!...

r5gtt:
Pudding has given excellent information an I would go by that and my experiences on fmic in the past. Overkill on the s3 and twintercooler if you ask me  :signLOL: but if your running 400bhp then go for the kill  :grin:

DANBOY66:
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day


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r5gtt:
Really  :scared:

When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.

S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery  :signLOL:

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