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My rtech map review

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Madone:
Very interesting post, R-Tech pride themselves on linear maps and have said directly they don't write more aggressive maps. Everyone gets told R-Tech are the best and everyone should go to them, but linear maps have a different feel from the more aggressive and some would say 'more exciting' maps from Revo etc. R-Tech maps no doubt do the numbers but for some other maps will feel faster and more exciting. This is a clear example of that. Horses for courses, but I would rather have a map that feels fast rather than one that requires you to carry a print out of the RR result so you know it's making the power  :signLOL: :signLOL:

AJP:
Thing is though, I wouldn't call my R-Tech Stage 1 map linear. It boosts hard and holds the boost nicely. Although I haven't driven a Revo (or other tuner's) car, so it's hard for me to be objective.

I have had loads of remaps on different cars, one of which being a 1.8T (with an AMD map as it happens). It certainly didn't jump out at me after getting the R-Tech map on the GTI that it felt linear, too progressive, or too smooth. If anything it delivers the boost better than any other remap I've had (granted, with different engines).

There's obviously more going on that dictates power delivery than the torque curves we can all relate to. I'm not sure it's purely down to 1:1 throttle mapping - as far as I'm aware that's an option, rather than standard for every R-Tech map.

I've read plenty of accounts from a few years back of Superchips/Bluefin software 'feeling' really strong, but in reality that's down to a huge torque spike that's no good for anything. The graph of the OP's AMD map isn't at all spikey, is bags of torque down on the subsequent R-Tech map, yet to him it doesn't feel as punchy. It's odd.

Hopefully Niki can come along and help us out!

Dan_FR:
Linear mapping would be the lack of a torque spike followed by a drop in the torque that you see with a lot generic maps. Niki's maps make torque strong and early, and hold that torque a lot better than most, which usully results in a linear HP curve that gets up to peak HP and holds it very well.

Do not confuse this with linear throttle mapping as that is entirely different - it's also a very love/hate thing - many like it as it gives more control, but many don't as it requires the throttle to be pressed a lot harder than you are used to in order to go anywhere. i suspect this is the reason Niki's map may not feel as punchy, as you have a lot more control and the accelerator is not basically an on/off switch that gives you 80% of power by the time you press the pedal 30% of the way down. This is often what makes the car feel punchy, but not necessarily fast/quick/powerful

The graph above is not the norm and clearly looks to be limited at the top end by hardware. The car may not feel much faster when redlining it in every gear, but around town in gear acceleration should feel a lot different so long as you press the throttle a bit further down.

Madone:
Is the OP saying he actually got the linear throttle map or its that R-Tech refer to their maps as linear in their delivery and hence this is a linear map ?, I didn't think R-Tech add linear throttle mapping as default ?, don't you need to ask for it ?

Dan_FR:
The only person who would know is Niki, but perhaps even Niki's normal throttle mapping has a lot mroe control than the AMD map? I've driven some maps over the years where the throttle was literally on or off in the space of 20% travel of the pedal... Not saying the AMD map is like this.... But it is the only way to explain why the car doesn't feel as punchy when it makes more torque over the entire rev range - it must be the throttle mapping

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