ESP & Revo

[edition_30]

You may have seen my older posts regarding what I initially thought was clutch clip... I will recap... I have recently got revo installed & ever since im getting the issue where between 1.5 – 2 rpm small rise in revs, then dipping before getting proper bite, the issue only occurs in second..

Now I thought it was slip but it just seems so strange so low in the rev range... doesn’t happen any where else.

Now for the last few days I have been driving with the esp turned off & the issue seems to be gone, but as soon as I revert to esp on then it comes back... could it be an issue between the revo & esp... Maybe if the car was mapped with esp on... Im really stuck as it never done it pre revo

[Poverty]

I think its the TCS then cutting in with the sh*t weather we have been having 

[edition_30]

Its definitely not that mate.. was happening before the snow.. its not actually spinning just a small rise in revs, then dipping before getting proper bite

[john_o]

light throttle with DSG
If the revs really are rising then it can only be wheelspin or clutch slip or DSG mech issues.
I believe 2nd/4th/6th are on the same clutch so you would expected slip in 6th under load first.
such low revs would really be wheelspin unless its under ice
Have you tried a DSG reset?
I reckon given the symptoms you describe its DSG related ......

[Sunglasses Ron]

IIRC correctly i'm sure his is a manual John . Could be wrong though..

[john_o]

ah ok Ben, in that case it narrows it to clutch imho (despite the no load etc facts) as revs cant rise any other way!
or an issue with the mech used to release the clutch (enough fluid , valve issues , restricted lines etc)

[Sunglasses Ron]

Or maybe even the DMF on it's way out..  But hopefully not fingers crossed.

[subaru26675]

Very similar problem to what i have, not long after my revo was installed either. I was guessing it was my clutch so have ordered a new sachs performance one.  With the revo set at stock, no issues at all. will need to try the esp on and off with revo installed.

[edition_30]

Thanks for the replys guys.. Really appreciate it!
Box is dsg , strange thing is that it never happened pre revo so would that not rule out the mechatronics unit?

Also what's the dmf?

[edition_30]

Very similar problem to what i have, not long after my revo was installed either. I was guessing it was my clutch so have ordered a new sachs performance one.  With the revo set at stock, no issues at all. will need to try the esp on and off with revo installed.

Would be good to see if u get the issue with ESP off.. U getting the clutch fitted soon?

[Golfgirl]

Also what's the dmf?

Duel mass flywheel

When the roads get better I need to play around with mine with Revo on/off and ESP on/off as my clutch is slipping too (manual car though).

[Sunglasses Ron]

Very similar problem to what i have, not long after my revo was installed either. I was guessing it was my clutch so have ordered a new sachs performance one.  With the revo set at stock, no issues at all. will need to try the esp on and off with revo installed.

Ah sorry, my bad. It was you mate who had the same issues who is manual... 

[john_o]

i would be very cautious drawing a common conclusion folks as theres big differences manual vs DSG and how the 'issue' is seen , light load vs WOT.

most issues are seen on manual cars under WOT in a high gear.

Even if the map 'caused' the effect it could only be down to increased power highlighting a pre-existing issue, as it cant directly effect 'drive' , i.e. the revs cant rise without some 'give' in the drivetrain. (which from what I know cant be done by an engine map?)


the other test would be does it happen repeatably.

i.e.

1st then into 2nd =  effect ?
3rd downshift to 2nd  = effect ?
and what about shift into 2nd , through to redline but hold (stopping upshift) , let car drop back down to idle but still in drive (DSG must not be allowed to change gear), then try and accelerate again = effect ?

in theory if its a clamping or mech issue in DSG the third scenario may not happen as its been 'locked' in gear for a prolonged period?

[subaru26675]

Very similar problem to what i have, not long after my revo was installed either. I was guessing it was my clutch so have ordered a new sachs performance one.  With the revo set at stock, no issues at all. will need to try the esp on and off with revo installed.

Would be good to see if u get the issue with ESP off.. U getting the clutch fitted soon?

I am not getting clutch until end of month as jkm out of stock and sachs have a backlog to catch up on.
My car is a manual, my problems are in higher gears, 4th,5th,6th fair bit of slip then takes a bite.  Really am hoping it is clutch and not dmf or my repair bill could get a bit high 

[Poverty]

You ed30 boys are deffo going through clutches alot quicker than us cupra lads for some reason. Think there are only 2 big power leons on scn with uprated clutches.