ESP & Revo

[subaru26675]

Yep, dont know why the ed30's are going through clutches so quick, I was out in in DJhorrice's cupra that normally runs over 360bhp and im sure he is still on standard clutch ?
Is it not the same engine/gearbox in both cars ? 

[Sunglasses Ron]

Think it can depend on how they have been driven mate from new. As wasn't yours bought 2nd hand? I know S3's genrally need  a clutch / flywheel once Stage 2+ is in play. But they do have 4wd to deal with too..

[Poverty]

Yep, dont know why the ed30's are going through clutches so quick, I was out in in DJhorrice's cupra that normally runs over 360bhp and im sure he is still on standard clutch ?
Is it not the same engine/gearbox in both cars ? 

Yeah it doesnt seem to be much of a concern to us. pretty sure its the same box and clutch. djhorace is going to be fitting another stock clutch to his aswell when he does his diff, and tbh with the way I have found things I would probably do the same of my clutch ever goes. Me and CupraK1 are still on the stock clutches and our cars have a hard life everyweekend. Only issues we have been getting is the clutch pedal sticking to the floor sometimes when the car gets hot, which probably means a faulty slave or master cylinder.

Ive heard that audi are fitting uprated clutches now when doing warranty work on them, not sure how true that is though, but the haldex puts a extra strain on the system

[animal]

Knowing VW and their tendency to over-engineer and play it safe, it's entirely possible that the ED30 was built with a different clutch to the K1 due to the slight difference in power outputs. I'm not sure if this can be confirmed with part numbers, but even if they are the same - the source of supply for the factory isnt always the same. A slight variation in material of those fitted to the Cupra and those fitted to the Ed30 could explain the premature failure the moment you push the Ed30 beyond it's normal operating range.

[subaru26675]

Could the same be said about the dual mass flywheel ?  I know a few guys on here have had them replaced, dont know if anyone on SCN has had problems with the DMF ?

[Poverty]

Could the same be said about the dual mass flywheel ?  I know a few guys on here have had them replaced, dont know if anyone on SCN has had problems with the DMF ?

just done a quick search on scn, and 5 guys have had new clutches. All of them bar 1 was running stage 2 plus spec. Some changed to single mass flywheels, others retained the std dual mass, and some just bought a new dual mass along with the clutch.

[animal]

Could the same be said about the dual mass flywheel ?  I know a few guys on here have had them replaced, dont know if anyone on SCN has had problems with the DMF ?

just done a quick search on scn, and 5 guys have had new clutches. All of them bar 1 was running stage 2 plus spec. Some changed to single mass flywheels, others retained the std dual mass, and some just bought a new dual mass along with the clutch.

How does a faulty DMF manifest it's self on the GTI?

And surely a solid flywheel is going to ruin the gearbox not to mention drastically increase NVH?

[winrya]

I'd like to know more about the DMF issues as my clutch slip was caused by a destroyed dm flywheel. I'm scared to floor it since replacing it all, I'm just waiting for the slipping sound which haunts me

 

[Sunglasses Ron]

By all acounts the Sachs clutch kit on a OEM replacement DMF seems to work fine from the many that have gone down that route.
Or if you want added security, you can go down the SMF route like my mate has done on his S3 since going Stage 2+ with the Spec Clutch and SMF kit from Backdraft Motorsport. Cost him about £1k for the kit (not fitted) and certainly is a decent bit of engineering that is rated way over the power/lbft that his car will produce.
One of the lads on ASN went with a different SMF set up and had a lot of problems with it (slow gear changes, very noisey etc) and warned anyone else against doing the same. Where as my mates kit (that Revo recommended by the way) seems to of done the trick and will obviously outlast any OEM set up. Plus it's only really a bit noisey when it's cold, once warmed up it's not a lot different to standard once run in. Oh and the pick up is night and day better than the standard set up with it being a lighter flywheel.  

[subaru26675]

So it begs the question, do i need to or should i replace my dmf when i am installing the sachs performance clutch and housing ?
The car only has 18K miles on it, could the dmf be knackered as well ?  There is no clutch judder or anything like that just slippage in higher gears when applying full throttle.
Dont want to have to replace it if i dont  need to 

Kev

[MAT ED30]

that ??? can only be answered when the box is out mate so just wait and see if there is any play in the dmf when its out

[Sunglasses Ron]

As Mat says, you will only know when the box is off unfortunately, but if it has more than 2 teeth's worth of play then it's time to replace. My mates was about fooked when he checked his and like a lot of people couldn't really have the car in bits and then have to wait for a new flywheel to be delivered, so ordered both before hand.. His had about 20k on it too, but that doesn't mean your's will necessarily be fooked.. Just that it may..  His was slipping in most gears, but not ALL the time.
Not really what you want to be hearing I know mate, but going off other people having similar issues, it may cost you a bit more than you had hoped.. 

[subaru26675]

Oh Shicht ! 
Cheers for the heads up boys. I am led to believe that sachs dont do a dmf so i suppose it would be an oem one.  where is the best place to buy one if i need to ??

Kev

[Sunglasses Ron]

I know the Audi boys were getting theirs from their Audi dealer, so it maybe the same with VW. Unless you know someone in the trade that can help out..?

[RobH]

Its a bit left field but Seremotors on SCN is a Seat dealer he might be able to help assuming the DMF is the same as the Cupras, he can get oem clutches for £150 so should be ale to get DMF's for a good price.