Golf Mk5 Gti Intercooler vs Edition 30

[gunnellgti]

Hi there, anybody know if the Gti and edition 30 intercoolers are the exact same size ? or is the 30 slightly bigger. An edition 30 one has come up very cheap wondering if its worth it at all to swap over. Thanks 

[pudding]

I think they are the same, which is odd as the S3 with the same engine as the Ed30 gets a bigger one!

[gunnellgti]

@Pudding Yeah thats why i was confused, thought the edition 30 would be the same.
Thanks mate

[Shoduchi]

We wish it was bigger, indeed. Put a TBE with sports cat (or decat), fit a bigger IC (S3 or bigger) and fit an upgraded HPFP (LOBA, APR, Autotech internals) and with a stock map you can see 270 BHP, which is the same as the S3 engine makes from factory.

[Paradox1]

or keep your stock intercooler and add a twintercooler

[Shoduchi]

or keep your stock intercooler and add a twintercooler

Not sure if a S3 IC wouldn't be better due to the lag and pressure drop... Personally for what I know I'd choose a S3 IC over that option. For BT you can add a twintercooler to a S3 IC, I guess.

[pudding]

or keep your stock intercooler and add a twintercooler

Not sure if a S3 IC wouldn't be better due to the lag and pressure drop... Personally for what I know I'd choose a S3 IC over that option. For BT you can add a twintercooler to a S3 IC, I guess.

Yeah I wondered about that too.  Audi must have thought the same too, hence why it's only a little bit bigger (thicker I think) but is a better quality core and metal end tanks.

The GTI/ED30 cooler isn't too bad though, according to my intake temp data logging.   Doesn't really start heat soaking until the 8th or 9th full throttle pull (mine's running 1.3 bar), and even then it's not much more than 20 above ambient.  Pretty good as it's behind the A/C rad!   I think the ECU starts pulling timing when IATs hit 45 deg.

A chargecooler would be nice for throttle response and more consistent intake temps, but it's a fair bit of work and expense.

[Shoduchi]

You benefit from the UK colder ambient temperatures. My THS copy from Darkside Developments is much better than the OEM IC. I'm running 1.4 bar at the moment.

[Paradox1]

I agree. we should really need a a bigger fmic or a secondary cooler in Uk weather unless its the 3 days of summer we have  and your doing a trackday or driving hard.

Its nice to feel the difference between stock and a larger/Additional cooler though

[pudding]

What's the APR one like?  I really like the look of their stuff, especially the cast downpipe!

[Shoduchi]

What's the APR one like?  I really like the look of their stuff, especially the cast downpipe!

Expensive, but good quality. I'd buy another cheaper option or one in 2nd hand in good condition. You can get a Peron/Wagner/Airtec stage 2 and that will be enough for your K04 turbo.

[dronners]

or keep your stock intercooler and add a twintercooler

Not sure if a S3 IC wouldn't be better due to the lag and pressure drop... Personally for what I know I'd choose a S3 IC over that option. For BT you can add a twintercooler to a S3 IC, I guess.

i have the airtec twin cooler. there is no noticeable increase in turbo lag from what i can feel

[pudding]

This seems like great value and deeper than the S3 one -
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-audi-s3-intercooler-with-alloy-end-tanks.html

[Paradox1]

or keep your stock intercooler and add a twintercooler

Not sure if a S3 IC wouldn't be better due to the lag and pressure drop... Personally for what I know I'd choose a S3 IC over that option. For BT you can add a twintercooler to a S3 IC, I guess.

i have the airtec twin cooler. there is no noticeable increase in turbo lag from what i can feel

How is the fit? is there any bumper trimming?

[Shoduchi]

This seems like great value and deeper than the S3 one -
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-audi-s3-intercooler-with-alloy-end-tanks.html

Honestly I don't know if the Darkside IC is better than any other Chinese THS replica sold on ebay for 160-170 £...

I also needed to replace one coupler from one of the DsD hoses to fit the turbo discharge pipe. Fortunately Creations Motorsport sells the correct coupler. I might have had bad luck with my hoses, I'm not sure if everyone who bought them had that problem. When I returned the coupler to the UK the package got lost.

The Post Office company returned me a good enough sum for me to be happy, since Darkside wasn't too willing to pay for my losses, just wanted to give me a voucher...