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Offline Pesky jones

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Settle a debate
« on: April 22, 2016, 10:53:54 pm »
If a dsg equipped car is faster than a manual on straights and on corners (?) why are rally cars all manual?  :driver:
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 10:55:23 pm »
Rally cars are not manual... they are have sequential boxes
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2016, 12:16:14 am »
Very expensive sequential boxes.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 03:13:14 am »
Quote from: rich83 on April 22, 2016, 10:55:23 pm
Rally cars are not manual... they are have sequential boxes

Splitting hairs rich they still have a clutch and a manually shifted lever to change gear, more manual than auto.

Op its cos rally drivers actually know how to turn an change gear. By the way pesky hows the motor.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2016, 06:38:04 am »
Quote from: Washout on April 23, 2016, 03:13:14 am
Quote from: rich83 on April 22, 2016, 10:55:23 pm
Rally cars are not manual... they are have sequential boxes

Splitting hairs rich they still have a clutch and a manually shifted lever to change gear, more manual than auto.

Do you mean a clutch pedal rather than a clutch? Because a DSG has a clutch too - two of them in fact.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2016, 09:26:23 am »
Quote from: Washout on April 23, 2016, 03:13:14 am
Quote from: rich83 on April 22, 2016, 10:55:23 pm
Rally cars are not manual... they are have sequential boxes

Splitting hairs rich they still have a clutch and a manually shifted lever to change gear, more manual than auto.

Op its cos rally drivers actually know how to turn an change gear. By the way pesky hows the motor.

Is it a clutch pedal? I see but even if they do know, surely there would be more control and a quicker change if tiptronic?

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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2016, 09:29:52 am »
It's sequential in the fact that you pull and push a lever to change gear without the need to depress the clutch.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2016, 10:46:57 am »
No clutch pedal do a Google search easy as that.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2016, 10:58:54 am »
In Manual mode the DSG box is also similar to a sequential box, you push or pull the lever. I just prefer to use the flappy paddles... :P
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2016, 11:11:08 am »
Quote from: Shoduchi on April 23, 2016, 10:58:54 am
In Manual mode the DSG box is also similar to a sequential box, you push or pull the lever. I just prefer to use the flappy paddles... :P
It is fun isn't it  :signLOL:
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2016, 11:12:56 am »
Quote from: r5gtt on April 23, 2016, 11:11:08 am
Quote from: Shoduchi on April 23, 2016, 10:58:54 am
In Manual mode the DSG box is also similar to a sequential box, you push or pull the lever. I just prefer to use the flappy paddles... :P
It is fun isn't it  :signLOL:
Yeap! I love to boost the turbo and change gears! DSG farts FTW! :signLOL:
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2016, 11:45:01 am »
Lot of dsg love going on here haha. My dsg doesn pop but I still love her haha

So why not have the gear changes at the wheel? I understand that the drivers are good with their hands of the wheel but it would still be faster and more control with both hands on the wheel surely?
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2016, 11:50:14 am »
Not when you are on opposite lock drifting around a corner.... its easier to locate the static shifter.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2016, 12:00:57 pm »
Quote from: Shoduchi on April 23, 2016, 11:12:56 am
Quote from: r5gtt on April 23, 2016, 11:11:08 am
Quote from: Shoduchi on April 23, 2016, 10:58:54 am
In Manual mode the DSG box is also similar to a sequential box, you push or pull the lever. I just prefer to use the flappy paddles... :P
It is fun isn't it  :signLOL:
Yeap! I love to boost the turbo and change gears! DSG farts FTW! :signLOL:
I tend to get mine farting and people look around to see what it is  :signLOL: still need to get an exhaust system and re map to get full potential from her. money shortage tho.
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Re: Settle a debate
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2016, 12:05:19 pm »
Quote from: rich83 on April 23, 2016, 11:50:14 am
Not when you are on opposite lock drifting around a corner.... its easier to locate the static shifter.
Yeah, I only use the DSG lever instead of the paddles when I'm turning the wheel and need to change from 1st to 2nd or 3rd to 2nd. At higher speeds I don't think I turn the wheel more than 180ยบ... :laugh:
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