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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #255 on: April 03, 2015, 12:28:47 pm »
Fantastic looking damper setup, sooo sexy  :party:

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #256 on: April 03, 2015, 05:37:22 pm »
Thanks Danish. Went back to the OEm mount after all since the AST camberplate was too noisy and was clicking. All fine now. Car has 26 adjustement steps on front and 55 steps on rear but don't know if after 20 they mean anything (by the manual they should only be 20). The car is set to 7 on front and 10 on rear. It is very smooth and quiet compared to even an OEm suspension. Low speed bumps and potholes are absorbed much better than B16 while at high speed cornering I could definately feel the much stiffer front springs opposing to compression. High speed roll seems very well damped (haven't got to the track yet to see the times and didn't get to warmup the semislicks yet). Will try several setting on my next track day and report back !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #257 on: April 03, 2015, 07:55:15 pm »
That suspension is looking great  :drinking:
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #258 on: May 23, 2015, 01:07:41 pm »
Ok, it's time for a review after my first track day with this coilover

The road to the track and back > Set it at 7 clicks on front and 10 clicks on rear (0 is hardest) and the ride is just superb. Small bumps, tram rails or small potholes are just hardly noticeable where with my old B16 my breath was literally stopping from the vertical accelerations. Steering is a little bit less responsive than B16 at low speeds (under 60kmh) and similar after that. Roll control is amazing at high speeds (over 140kmh) where you can clearly see Ohlins is superior.

The track > Went 3 times on our recently opened track, 2 times with B16 and now with the Ohlins. Started with the setting mentioned above and the car was understeering pretty bad, knowing the turns are very tight on exit which punsishes FWD cars already. Left the front on 7 and moved the rear from 10 to 7 and felt the car imediately changed behaviour to neutral which led to better corner exit. Afterwards I've tried 5F and 5R and towards the end of the day had my best time with 3F and 3 rear. I must say the steps are very noticeable as compared to B16 where they were  quite vague. For this track, I will next time try 3F and 1 rear to see if I can make the car oversteer a little bit. I must mention that with F & R set equal, I couldn't make the rear loose traction no matter how hard I tried. The car was simply sliding totally neutral. At the end of the day, my time was only 0.5sec faster than with B16 (1min46.2sec) but can't really compare since on one hand I learned the track better at the last visit but on the other hand my R888s were over the thread markers and the track temps were higher on the last visit (40degC as opposed to an optimal of 20-30degC)
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #259 on: September 02, 2015, 03:11:18 pm »
I have some questions regarding how the wibg was attached to the rear hatch.
What did you have to cut to attach the wing? any pictures? how many mounting points.
I am in the process of installing a wing on my mk6.
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #260 on: September 08, 2015, 07:03:03 pm »
No pics with the "insides" of the install, just the "outsides". However, the 2 mounting points have been heavily reinforced with a welded steel plate under the hatch's upper metal layer !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #261 on: November 13, 2015, 07:40:24 pm »
On my last track day I succeeded boiling the fluid on my 1st session. The next logical step was to find a way and cool the brakes. While building my brake ducts, I've also found the VWRacing front air-dam, which sits about 6cm lower than the original bumper, was blocking the air flow through the oem vent towards the brakes !! And the upgrade >

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #262 on: November 14, 2015, 06:44:33 am »
You can clearly see how the vwr airdam is blocking the air through the oem duct

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI
« Reply #263 on: January 11, 2016, 06:07:20 pm »
First impressions after the latest track day (mid November) are very positive. Not even the slightest hint of fade and was able to push much harder than before due to the extra confidence. Best lap time was now 1:58.74 as opposed to 2:05.xx on the previous track day. Not all the credit goes to the brakes. The Federal FZ-201 tires are just fabulous. The grip they had over the "end of life" R888 was just phenomenal. The comparison is not the best as everybody knows the Toyos lose grip on the second part of their life !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #264 on: January 11, 2016, 06:30:49 pm »
Thought it would be nice to update the mod list from the 1st page :

- K04 turbocharger
- S3 injectors
- S3 camshafts
- Je Pistons 83mm
- Integrated Engineering Rods
- Calico rod bearings
- Autotech HPFP
- TT-RS in-tank fuel pump
- THX intercooler
- AC delete
- Additional OEM hot-weather water radiator
- Forge coolant hoses
- Odyssey ER-40 battery
- Custom cat-less 3" turbo-back
- Evoms CAI
- PCV fix
- RS4 fuel pressure regulator valve
- 42DD + FFE shifter bushings
- AP Racing Pro 5000+ 362x32mm front brakes + Pagid RSL1 pads + custom cooling
- S3 rear brakes + Carbotech XP8 pads
- Ohlins R&T coilovers
- BSH solid 27mm RSB
- H&R solid 28mm FSB
- Autotech rear end-links
- Peloquin LSD
- TT camber adjustable arms
- S3 aluminium spindles
- Sachs racing SMF clutch
- Forge short shift
- BSH pendeleum engine mount & Custom side mounts
- Team Dynamics Pro 1.2 rims on 8x18"
- Toyo R888/Federal FZ-201 tires on 235/40/18
- Revo stage 3 software
- Recaro poleposition seats
- Schroth harnesses
- Custom rear roll-cage
- VWRacing front air-dam
- Reverie rear wing



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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #265 on: January 22, 2016, 11:55:05 am »
Impressive as always, then again your car has been one of the main inspirations for my own mk 5 GTI build.
Now it's time for an A3 2,0 (TSI) S-tronic Quattro build for me  :happy2:

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #266 on: March 10, 2016, 03:11:51 am »
what tie rods did you use???
The stock gti tie rods are too short to use with the audi tt arms.

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #267 on: April 13, 2016, 04:40:41 pm »
what tie rods did you use???
The stock gti tie rods are too short to use with the audi tt arms.

You use the TT tie rods and adapt the steering assembly by machining app. 5mm of in both ends, i did this mod as well on my GTI

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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #268 on: May 12, 2016, 06:32:42 pm »
I didn't machine anything. Steering is OEM. Forgot to mention the VWRacing adjustable swaybar drop links !
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Re: Black magic Mk5 GTI track car
« Reply #269 on: May 15, 2016, 09:20:12 am »
Nice! :happy2: