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Illegal tints????
« on: January 15, 2010, 10:31:14 pm »
just been pulled by the po po (unmarked skoda!!) for having illegal front window tints!!! he had a light meter and took readings saying they only let in 26% light, but it was 9pm and totally dark outside, so how would he get an accurate reading? :confused:

the windows were like that when i bought it from vw last year & i believe they are oem factory tints. had no idead they were illegal! anyway £30 fine & not too happy. ive a good mind to go back to vw and have a moan!!

shud be out catching REAL criminals. if my car got swiped tonight i wouldnt see them for 3 days!! :fighting:

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 10:34:23 pm »
i got pulled for mine a while back but he had nothing to test them with so just said they might be illegal as i am sure the tint on my fronts is legal but what make them wrong is oe factory tint makes them darker  :laugh: look cool if u ask me

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 10:35:27 pm »
VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 10:36:50 pm »
Front tints are illegal, regardless of darkness of tint.

UV film is the only film which you can fit to help lower UV light into the car on the front without getting stopped.

Will give you a kinda mirror look on the glass but wont make it darker inside. Stops people seeing you as easy inside the front of the car

whilst moving too.

« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 10:38:35 pm by Phil Mcavity »

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 10:37:30 pm »
VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.

u sure? my tint guy said all golf have a slight tint to them and its the dark interior that makes them look darker

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 10:38:22 pm »
VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.

They have a greenish blue tint to the fronts Nath, but just not privacy tints. :happy2:

Like Nath said though VW don't darken the fronts - only the rear from the B pillar.
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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 10:38:56 pm »
VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.

u sure? my tint guy said all golf have a slight tint to them and its the dark interior that makes them look darker

Only the same kind of blue/green tint you would get on a windscreen, and certainly not enough to only let through only 28% of light.  :smiley:

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 10:39:35 pm »
VW do not tint the front windows from factory, only the rears.

They have a greenish blue tint to the fronts Nath, but just not privacy tints. :happy2:

Like Nath said though VW don't darken the fronts - only the rear from the B pillar.

Indeedy!  :wink:

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2010, 10:39:45 pm »
Front tints are illegal. regardless of darkness of tint.

UV film is the only film which you can fit to help lower UV light into the car on the front without getting stopped.



the copper that pulled me in an x5 had security film on his car and it adds a tint to there cars and he said there is no way around it for that type of film so if its illegal then you best go tell the cops  :laugh:

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 10:41:47 pm »
Tinting front windows is perfectly legal:

The UK Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 Act details the legality of window tinting in the UK - and as amended specifies the minimum levels of light that must pass through the windscreen and front side windows.

For a legal window tint in the UK the specifications are:
a) Motor Vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1985
b) The light transmitted through the windscreen must be at least 75%.
c) The front side windows (to either side of the drivers’ head) must allow at least 70% of light to be transmitted through them.

Does not matter if it is dark, the light meter that is carried has it's own light source so it's irrelevant.

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 10:43:19 pm »
that what the copper said to me as DOMT has said  :smiley:

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010, 10:46:41 pm »
My old bus with carbon UV tints on the front incase youve not seen before.


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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 10:49:11 pm »
I dont agree Dom. The tint on the front of mine with darker rears is the limit you can go without going more then 75% .
Along with the fact that vw's glass in the GTi is already tinted to an extent.

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 11:01:51 pm »
Steve, read what I posted - The front windscreen must let at least 75% of light through i.e. 25% tint and let 70% of the light through on the sides i.e. 30% tint. Law is pretty clear on this. See this VOSA document- http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Tinted%20Windows%20Oct%202008.pdf

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Re: Illegal tints????
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 11:03:19 pm »
I have Dom, and read this update

and a law emendment in 2004..........

Important Notice: Car Window Tinting
 

Amendments to Legislation During the early part of 2004, Section 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations will be amended to include “Window Tint Films”, where such materials attached to the glass are capable of reducing the Visible Light Transmission of forward windows to below prescribed levels. These changes will be back-dated to become applicable from 1st January 2004.

 

This will effectively ban virtually all tinted films fitted to windows forward of the B-Post on any vehicle that is to be driven on UK roads.

 

The reason for these changes is the recent proliferation of vehicles that are excessively tinted. Some vehicles may be so heavily tinted that they present a real danger when used on public roads. The action being taken by the Government follows a fatality that occurred recently where a heavily tinted car was involved in a collision with a motorcycle and the window tints were held to blame due to the vision of the driver being impaired.

 

There is however, a recognised difference between “light window tints” which may be considered safe for road use and “excessively dark window tints” which are not.

 

There has also been a great deal of debate in recent years about the legitimacy of window tints that do not obscure the vision of the driver. A clear case has been argued that road-safe window tints do not actually conflict with existing regulations. The Department for Transport have argued however that Section 32 was always intended to cover materials attached to the glass, despite the fact that no mention of this is made in the Regulation itself.

 

The only solution remaining would be to amend the Legislation.

 

Consequently and in order to clarify the situation, the Government have finally decided to up-date the Regulations to specifically include Tinted Films since, in the view of the Police and the Department for Transport, this is the only way in which the problems of excessive tints can be remedied.

 

Unfortunately however, even tint films that may be considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

 

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints already fitted and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints.

 

Implications for the vehicle owner
 

After much discussion, a sympathetic Enforcement Policy has been agreed between the Department for Transport and The Glass and Glazing Federation to ensure that all vehicle owners that have had tints applied in the past may be dealt with fairly. This applies in particular where the infringement is with respect to tints that do not pose a significant threat to Road Safety, despite being in contravention with the amended Regulations.

 

In any event, after the date of the amendment to Section 32, the owner of a vehicle that has window tints applied forward of the B-Post could be challenged by either a Police Officer or by an Inspector from the Department for Transport’s Vehicle Inspectorate, where their vehicle is noticed being driven on Public Roads.

 

Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the Visible Light Transmission level, when measured using an approved device falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with, and recommended, by the Government.

 

Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)
 

The owner or driver of such a vehicle would be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice. A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed.

 

In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.

 

Action that needs to be taken
 

All Businesses that have supplied window tints forward of the B-Post are being encouraged by the Government and the Glass and Glazing Federation to contact all of their previous customers to inform them of the changes to Legislation and to offer them a chance to have their vehicle rectified by having the front tints removed.

 

As one of our existing customers, this is a service that we are happy to offer to you free of charge. It is also something that we can do for you while you wait to minimise any inconvenience.

 

 
I hope this clears things up. Pretty much means that any form of tint can be challenged by a jobsworth PC plod.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 11:12:18 pm by Phil Mcavity »