Brexit

[Scottymon]

Strange that, funny how I didn't get to Directly vote in Juncker for example, oh wait I didn't, that went through a vote of 700 odd EU Politicians, some from the UK which make up 1 voice in 28... 10 of those 28 countries who actually SUPPORT the rest, the rest being so sh!t scared of losing their hand out monies that they would do anything that Brussels told them to do.
 
The EU is a failing entity, relying on successful countries to support the rest; until they are so bled dry (France / Italy / Spain?) that they become the spongers too.

Netherlands next, then it's game over EU.

Anyway, Wales Friday 8PM, be there or be square.

[garrardrj]

Well said ^

[doylebros]

This thread is proving to be educational for me and I expect for many others, with some very interesting facts and figures.

[Johnsy]

Onwards and upwards !

theres a potential 2.2billion customers in the world market compared to the 500million  in the EU.

The EU is the only market to not have regained it GDP since 2007-2008 recession. While America has grown it's GDP and increased its national wealth by 10% . Where getting out just at the right time, hells sure if we weren't already In. We wouldn't be looking to join the EU .

[dansmith180]

Onwards and upwards !

theres a potential 2.2billion customers in the world market compared to the 500million  in the EU.

The EU is the only market to not have regained it GDP since 2007-2008 recession. While America has grown it's GDP and increased its national wealth by 10% . Where getting out just at the right time, hells sure if we weren't already In. We wouldn't be looking to join the EU .

Very interesting about the GDP that, was not aware of those figures. I knew that others were doing better but didn't realise it was that much.

Also the point about not joining I found a very good one when I first heard it, no way we'd jump into that sh*t show now so why shouldn't we leave it.

[FJ1000]

Most of the EU's economic troubles come from the Euro. For example, Greece would have been much better off if they could have devalued their currency, but wasn't an option. Incidentally it is the Southern European states that have dragged down overall GDP, but plenty of countries in the EU are growing. Overall EU growth is about 2%, and unemployment has come down to about 8% (from 11% mid 2013).

Make no mistake though, membership of the EU is a net positive to the UK economy, and we're never joining the euro.

I went to a presentation at Bloomberg and their economist estimated that membership of the EU added around 10% to UK trade income.

Final point for now; the EU is in some ways more democratic than the UK parliament. House of Lords anyone? See the vid I posted earlier.

Good to see markets a bit more stable today.


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[Johnsy]

Onwards and upwards !

theres a potential 2.2billion customers in the world market compared to the 500million  in the EU.

The EU is the only market to not have regained it GDP since 2007-2008 recession. While America has grown it's GDP and increased its national wealth by 10% . Where getting out just at the right time, hells sure if we weren't already In. We wouldn't be looking to join the EU .

Very interesting about the GDP that, was not aware of those figures. I knew that others were doing better but didn't realise it was that much.

Also the point about not joining I found a very good one when I first heard it, no way we'd jump into that sh*t show now so why shouldn't we leave it.

Interesting from a Brexit pov
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Futxf1U2f8

A little closer to home

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNj-hH8LkY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Futxf1U2f8

[raz469]

^ wow
It's nice to be given a balanced view.  I thought the rest of Europe hated us.


Dooes this mean we're gonna be going to war with Europe (&Russia) in the future?
Say once we've left them alone to "govern" themselves for 10 years.

So are we all coming to terms with life after eu and how we will survive

Is anyone else not worried about leaving the eu alone with Russia?

[garrardrj]

^ wow
It's nice to be given a balanced view.  I thought the rest of Europe hated us.


Dooes this mean we're gonna be going to war with Europe (&Russia) in the future?
Say once we've left them alone to "govern" themselves for 10 years.

So are we all coming to terms with life after eu and how we will survive

Is anyone else not worried about leaving the eu alone with Russia?

NATO is there for our protection , not the EU

[doylebros]

^ wow
It's nice to be given a balanced view.  I thought the rest of Europe hated us.


Dooes this mean we're gonna be going to war with Europe (&Russia) in the future?
Say once we've left them alone to "govern" themselves for 10 years.

So are we all coming to terms with life after eu and how we will survive

Is anyone else not worried about leaving the eu alone with Russia?

NATO is there for our protection , not the EU

Wouldn't worry about Russia they've got all their loot in London.

[Juliand]

Wouldn't worry about Russia they've got all their loot in London.

Well, they did have! Not quite such a safe investment now, is it????

[Scottymon]

No one thinks it would be or is going to be easy. 
However, ask yourself if you'd honesty want the UK to join Europe now for the first time. 
Knowing full well that it's a failing system only getting worse, where we'd have to support other countries, not be able to have free trade with the rest of the world, have to accept thousands of immigrants each year, be bullied into agreements like TTIP, and have to spend Billions for the privilege!!  How appealing.
 

[Craig Stanley]

The whole Brexit attitude that gets to me is the whole "we're alright John and sod the rest of you". As a rich nation shouldn't we be helping to lead the world to a better place for all. The countries that need help are only looking to have an equal way of life as ourselves. Is that not fair.

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[dansmith180]

The whole Brexit attitude that gets to me is the whole "we're alright John and sod the rest of you". As a rich nation shouldn't we be helping to lead the world to a better place for all. The countries that need help are only looking to have an equal way of life as ourselves. Is that not fair.

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That's called communism and it's never worked.

[Craig Stanley]

Lol. Really:)

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