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Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« on: July 21, 2016, 06:53:13 pm »
Hi all,

Very happy to say that I have finally bought a MK5 GTI! After so many years of wanting one it is now a reality  :jumping: :jumping:

Just wondered if anyone recognised the car? Seems to have been owned by an enthusiast so wondered if anyone on here recognises her?





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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 08:54:32 pm »
Looks like a clean example. What's the full spec?
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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 09:22:10 am »
Looks like a clean example. What's the full spec?

Thanks, seems well kept overall, time will tell!

Off the top of my head the spec is as follows:
Cloth Seats
Xenon Headlights
Cruise Control

Not sure what else, picking her up tomorrow so will find out more after getting familiar with it :)

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 12:24:24 pm »
Looks lovely - Right colour too! :happy2:

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 06:33:26 pm »
Can't help you identify it, but good choice - looks REALLY clean!

Enjoy the most versatile 4 wheels you'll ever own

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2016, 06:55:56 pm »
Certainly looks like it's been well cared for, well done!  :happy2:

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 09:08:47 am »
Thanks for the comments chaps, I am very happy with the purchase. She drives well and handles great! Condition is overall very good, she is in dire need of a clay and polish session but thankfully the paint itself is in very good nic, hence the gleam in the pics!

The car feels like a rocket, she pulls so hard and spins the wheels in 2nd on dry hot roads!

The bad news... I took her for a dyno run to see how she is performing. She made 155bhp and 200ft-lb. Very concerning... They suspected it was a boost leak so I have contacted the dealer and without any fuss he asked me to bring her in for their garage to diagnose. Strange though how its making stock torque but not stock bhp...?

I went to check the DV as I know these are common but I couldn't find it. It seems to have some sort of billet metal contraption installed where the DV should be? With hoses coming off it?

I think it's this because it looks almost identical, it even has the little mount for the solenoid as seen in the install guide on the following page:
http://www.modbargains.com/forge-motorsport-diverter-valve-mk5-mk6-gti-gli.htm

Anyone know what the heck this is, take a look:






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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 12:51:51 pm »
You'll see from many posts on here the Diverter Valve (commonly referred to as the DV here) is a weak point on these, so many people replace them as routine maintenance with an updated version. I expect the previous owner went for an uprated one, but that looks like it's covered in oil, so might be a point of weakness.

Car looks awesome by the way :)

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 03:33:44 pm »
Didn't Rich confirm it's a forge on another thread?

@r5gtt recently mentioned the forge leaks boost too so that could be the case.

Be interested to see if a new DV (opt for a GFB DV+) will cure the problem.

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 03:45:59 pm »
Didn't Rich confirm it's a forge on another thread?

@r5gtt recently mentioned the forge leaks boost too so that could be the case.

Be interested to see if a new DV (opt for a GFB DV+) will cure the problem.

Yeah he did but I posted this before I created that thread :).

I will let the dealer attempt to find the boost leak and advise how they plan to rectify the issue :).

I'll search now for boost leaks from the Forge DV though, that's worrying.

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 06:20:25 pm »
Yes @lukemk5gti I did and I don't trust the forge or any forge or that matter as they are prone to leak and have serviceable parts where as the GFB DV + does not. Hope that helps.  :smiley:

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 06:40:39 pm »
To answer your question why it's making stock torque but not power, peak torque (on a standard k03 car) is at around 2000-2500rpm. However, peak power is around 5500-6000rpm. If it's not making enough torque at 5500-6000rpm, it won't make enough peak power.

So in basic terms, it's coming on boost ok, but then losing boost quickly (this is your boost leak) rather than holding it, as much as a little k03 can, higher up the revs.

This is why peak figures are often misleading, and torque/power graphs tell us the information we really need.

My k03 GTI makes 345lb/ft peak torque at Stage 2. A typical k04 car at Stage 2 makes a similar peak torque figure. But... the k04 car makes about 80bhp more peak power. For the exact reason explained above - it's how long a car can maintain torque as the revs increase that dictates peak power.

A bit like diesels that make 350lb/ft but only 200bhp. The boost is here and gone in a split second, and diesels can't rev high enough to turn big torque into big power.

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 09:46:48 pm »
If I was you I would get rid of the Forge diverter valve and put in a stock item for now to get the boost leak sorted. I went with the Stock DV, and then upgrade the internal parts with GFB DV+ which is a great peace of kit, very well made, it's been installed on my car for 3 years now without a problem. Also look at the PCV valve which is a weak point.

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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 09:52:50 pm »
@AJP can you elaborate on this?

Are you saying that his log of 150bhp was a snapshot when torque was highest? Could his bhp have been higher at some other point on the dyno?


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Re: Finally bought a GTI - Anyone recognise it?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 10:05:44 pm »
Thanks for all the great feedback gents.

I would like to remove the Forge DV in place for the Rev G DV but will need to spend some time reading the install instructions for the Forge one as it appears to be more complicated than just a plug and play DV. I.e. removal will be more complicated.

This was my dynograph for those interested, colours are a bit hard to differentiate but the curve starting at 34 is power and the other therefor is torque: