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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2016, 09:59:53 am »
Well I'm glad I read this thread. I've always depressed the clutch on startup. Thought it was good practice. I've got an uprated clutch too

I'll bear this fix in mind if and when I move to a car that necessitates a depressed clutch on startup.
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Thanks for the info, and to OP for inadvertently bringing this to our attention. GLWS. I'm convinced, but i have no need for it on this car...

I have always started all my cars with the clutch depressed, probably reinforced by often parking on steep hills and so always in gear.

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2016, 02:08:45 pm »
I've started all my car's with the clutch depressed but in all my years never had an issue with the clutch including my favourite TT @AJP  :P :signLOL:

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2016, 02:33:46 pm »
You never mentioned you had a TT...

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2016, 03:49:01 pm »
oh well now you know  :P

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2016, 08:25:13 pm »
Interesting... I always stay the car with the clutch depressed. Thought it was easier on the engine. Also I have a 2013 touran and that simply will not start unless you have the clutch depressed. Even tells you on the dash :S

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That's exactly why it was made, for cars that won't start without a clutch press, such as the S3. Not all engines suffer this problem, it's just a design flaw with the Gen 1 TFSI engines.

@Dan_FR which ones are the Gen 1 TFSI engines that suffer from this, AXX only or
BWA, BPY & BYD also?

I guess this device not needed for GTI but still trying to work out whether to start with clutch depressed or not.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 08:26:52 pm by Flyingscotsman »

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2016, 08:42:23 pm »
I still found myself starting it with the clutch in today. Must concentrate!

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2016, 08:51:40 pm »
I'm still not convinced it's a bad idea !

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2016, 10:16:43 pm »
The owners manual advises you to start the car with the clutch pressed in I'm guessing to lessen the load on the starter and battery (probably more beneficial in colder weather when the oil is thicker) but I can see why this may cause the problem with the thrust washer as the crank is being pushed forwards, make your own choice which is the greater evil I guess.

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2016, 10:56:45 pm »
A few out of the tens of thousands they made isn't a sign of a problem to me. Not doubting that there is a problem, but it doesn't seem that widespread.
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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2016, 01:02:14 am »
Direct injection being the biggest flaw for the tfsi mk5. This isn't anything to really worry too much about.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2016, 01:19:51 am by r5gtt »

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2016, 07:01:51 am »
A few out of the tens of thousands they made isn't a sign of a problem to me. Not doubting that there is a problem, but it doesn't seem that widespread.
It's not hugely widespread, but the installation of an upgraded clutch greatly increases the likelyhood of it occurring.
Some people (I have sold 30+ in 24 hours) are happy to pay the small price for peace of mind, others aren't  fussed...just depends on the owner :)

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2016, 09:30:43 am »
Certainly good markup on 2 connectors and I'm guessing a resistor or too  :signLOL:

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2016, 11:01:11 am »
Not sure why everyone giving this so much stick.  :stupid:

He has took his time to develop something to overcome a problem. Then offered to supply fellow vag enthusiast, at a small cost in the who sceme of car maintenance/ modding.

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2016, 11:39:58 am »
A real enthusiast would give you the information to enable you to make your own. :booty:

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Re: "Push Clutch To Start" Bypass Harness
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2016, 11:56:21 am »
The parts cost me £14, postage is £2...not exactly making a fortune! People have said I should charge more, but I'm not in it to make a killing, I did it primarily to help people out (I originally had a thread detailing the wiring schematics, but was told to take it down for my own benefit). The £6 I make covers my time to make the harness (each one takes about 15 minutes), and pays for the time/ink/paper to write the comprehensive fittings instructions.

If you really are that reluctant to pay £22, PM me and I will show you where to get the parts and you can figure it out for yourself :)
« Last Edit: August 07, 2016, 12:05:55 pm by george_seamons »