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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2016, 09:04:37 pm »
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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2017, 01:34:43 pm »
Reviving an old thread but...wouldn't it be lovely to have the IE or similar inlet manifold with built in meth injection ports!

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2017, 02:03:57 pm »
Reviving an old thread but...wouldn't it be lovely to have the IE or similar inlet manifold with built in meth injection ports!

Like this one - http://www.akstuning.co.uk/engine-mounts/357-rpc-uprated-intake-manifold-tfsitsi.html


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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2017, 02:24:58 pm »
Yep! I saw that they started selling them the other day. I also saw somewhere that the IE manifold had cracked under big pressures which is thought to be down to the weakness the logo plaque causes. I did actually click on the AKS RPC link when they announced it to see if it was the same scenario - but got distracted before it loaded - it appears not! RPC for the win

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2017, 02:45:39 pm »
Would you see much gains from it though?? The TFSI/TSI head does flow well...

I guess its more needed if your looking for A BT build i suppose

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2017, 02:47:39 pm »
Yeah I think it is only needed for BT builds. You'd be forging before this I expect

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2017, 03:27:35 pm »
Pointless and money down the drain if you ask me. Stick to the conventional way and tap the jet into the inlet pipe or get your AKS adapter and job done :happy2:

Seen that IE manifold all blown apart and couldn't fathom out whether it's meth that did it or Noz as that's a mighty solid manifold to have blown its welds :thinking:

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2017, 03:39:25 pm »
Pointless and money down the drain if you ask me. Stick to the conventional way and tap the jet into the inlet pipe or get your AKS adapter and job done :happy2:

Seen that IE manifold all blown apart and couldn't fathom out whether it's meth that did it or Noz as that's a mighty solid manifold to have blown its welds :thinking:

Its not sold for the meth injection, its sold for flow needed for BT builds. Waste of money if you buy it for meth injection only!


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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2017, 03:56:10 pm »
Meth up the throttle hole is not as effective as meth up each injector port tbh, although some meth is better than no meth if you're going down that path  :smiley:

Yeah I never could see the point of that removable logo plate on the IE intake.  I think it's just to show off the velocity stacks inside.

The RPC item looks like a good product.  Or you can buy exactly the same thing with Bar-Tek written on it for a lot more money  :stupid: - https://www.bar-tek-tuning.de/en/2_0l-tfsi-tsi-intake-manifold

Honestly, some of the pricing for TFSI tuning stuff is utterly ridiculous.  £500 for a drain pipe with a filter on the end on that website.  I don't get it.


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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2017, 04:25:41 pm »
Meth up the throttle hole is not as effective as meth up each injector port tbh, although some meth is better than no meth if you're going down that path  :smiley:

Yeah I never could see the point of that removable logo plate on the IE intake.  I think it's just to show off the velocity stacks inside.

The RPC item looks like a good product.  Or you can buy exactly the same thing with Bar-Tek written on it for a lot more money  :stupid: - https://www.bar-tek-tuning.de/en/2_0l-tfsi-tsi-intake-manifold

Honestly, some of the pricing for TFSI tuning stuff is utterly ridiculous.  £500 for a drain pipe with a filter on the end on that website.  I don't get it.

Not sure I totally agree with that.. Both are affected methods on getting meth into the engine.
I prefer to tap into the thorttle body pipe so it give the meth time to atomize before it hits the clyinders. I had good results from this so not sure there is a right or wrong way as long as its post interooler.

The Bar-Tek, Intergrated Engineering and HPA all look pretty much the same, just with different names on them

I think it was the Intergrated engineering one that needed a map to work properly..... how ridiculous lol :grin: :grin:

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2017, 04:57:46 pm »
I was reading this the other night but forgot to screen shot the rest but can't find it now.


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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2017, 06:37:00 pm »
Meth up the throttle hole is not as effective as meth up each injector port tbh, although some meth is better than no meth if you're going down that path  :smiley:

Yeah I never could see the point of that removable logo plate on the IE intake.  I think it's just to show off the velocity stacks inside.

The RPC item looks like a good product.  Or you can buy exactly the same thing with Bar-Tek written on it for a lot more money  :stupid: - https://www.bar-tek-tuning.de/en/2_0l-tfsi-tsi-intake-manifold

Honestly, some of the pricing for TFSI tuning stuff is utterly ridiculous.  £500 for a drain pipe with a filter on the end on that website.  I don't get it.

Not sure I totally agree with that.. Both are affected methods on getting meth into the engine.
I prefer to tap into the thorttle body pipe so it give the meth time to atomize before it hits the clyinders. I had good results from this so not sure there is a right or wrong way as long as its post interooler.

The Bar-Tek, Intergrated Engineering and HPA all look pretty much the same, just with different names on them

I think it was the Intergrated engineering one that needed a map to work properly..... how ridiculous lol :grin: :grin:

You can have 1 big meth injector before the throttle plate, and I agree, gives it time to atomise into the air stream, but have you seen the mist that comes out of a meth injector? Super fine.   Or you can have 4 smaller meth injectors to guarantee even distribution across all cylinders.  Different ways to skin a cat  :happy2:

I have read somewhere that the plastic throttle bodies on these cars don't like extended meth dousing though.  Or maybe it's the pre Q revision throttles that don't like it.

Yup, because the bottom end torque goes after deleting the runner flaps and increasing bore size.  Bigger plenum volume can increase lag too, hence why VW kept to a minimum originally.


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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2017, 09:05:22 pm »
Well best place to put the injector would be as paradox said before the map sensor even though we all know it's better going to all four cylinders but no ones going bbt so it doesn't matter too much.

The person who I purchased my kit off is well known and he recommends the same.

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2017, 11:20:57 am »
Like I said, either way will work and you will get benefits.

all preference i suppose

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Re: devilsown meth???
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2017, 03:11:06 pm »
I spoke to the man running it in his tfsi tte 480 and he say yeah  :signLOL: