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Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« on: August 13, 2016, 02:55:10 am »
So, after buying a used MFSW from omeydz (Omar) on this forum I installed it a couple days ago after the rest of the things I needed arrived. Namely, the different wiring loom, CH version steering wheel control module and a G version cruise control stalk.

The install of all parts was easy enough, but it took several attempts to clear the steering wheel symbol from the dash and the associated codes by doing the reset and basic procedures steps.

However, I still have these errors:

 Engine
005784  P1698 - 001

Steering wheel
00895 014 - Defective

Gateway
00003 014 - Defective

They all seem to relate to the cruise control stalk. Also the tyre pressure warning light is flashing on the dash. Pressing the button to reset it just makes it light up solid and then when you release the button it starts flashing again.

I've taken apart the cruise control stalk as per a link in the vcds wiki pages I've found and checked for corrosion but it's all good as you would expect being new. 

Strangely I can clear the fault code in the steering wheel option on vcds and it stays cleared. However when I re- check it after going into the can gateway option it will have reappeared.

I didn't take an auto scan of my car beforehand unfortunately.
I've tried selecting different versions (4 or 6 position) of the cruise control stalk under the steering wheel options but this hasn't helped.

When checking outputs with vcds it shows when I have the cruise control switch on or off (although the cruise control icon doesn't show up on the dash) and indicator and high beam all work as they should. I can't find anywhere that shows the output test for the set and resume buttons though.

When coding after the install the steering wheel module already had a code and after selecting the multi function steering wheel with push to talk ( I guess this is correct as that is referring to the microphone symbol?) vcds said this was an uncoded module and did I want to use default codes of 12345 etc. I selected no to leave in the code that was in there. I've since tried 12345 as well without luck.
Should I have written down my coding from my original steering wheel module and used that?
I'll pull it all apart and reinstall that to get the code off it if need be, but don't want to go down that route if I don't need to.

I've registered on the vcds forum too so will post this there too when my activation code comes through.

Anything anyone can think of that I've done wrong or aren't doing?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Ps I've searched the forums for this and although I find similar problems they never have the resolution posted.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2016, 04:24:39 am by The Red Warrior »

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2016, 07:11:21 am »
Just a quick question for you,  did you check you have the wire needed between the swcm and engine ecu for cruise to work?

What reg is car

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2016, 09:22:04 am »
Just a quick question for you,  did you check you have the wire needed between the swcm and engine ecu for cruise to work?

What reg is car

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No, I didn't. That does ring a bell though. I must've read about that somewhere. where exactly should i check that assuming I can't find that again.

Car is 2005 so i guess that means an 05 reg car in the UK.

Thanks for the tips so far, I'll see in the meantime if I can find that site that mentions the pin.

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2016, 11:46:55 am »
Ahh, is this what you were talking about? I found it on the ross tech site.

Add the Wiring from Steering Column Control Module to the Engine Control Module. This step used to be necessary before MY 2006/2007 but as of MY 2010 several Users have reported missing Wiring when the Vehicle was not Factory equipped with Cruise Control. Check the proper Wiring Diagrams for the Vehicle in question.
For Steering Wheel Control Module P/N 1K0-953-549-* check Connector/Pin T20/13.
For Steering Wheel Control Module P/N 5K0-953-549-* and 5K0-953-569-* check Connector/Pin T16/5.

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 10:03:54 am »
Just a quick question for you,  did you check you have the wire needed between the swcm and engine ecu for cruise to work?

Now I know what you are referring to.
I found a very well put together how to that you've made on ukmkiv's.net about the diagnostics wire.
Surely my car must already have this as it came with cruise control and it was working fine until I did this retrofit.
The APR software my car is running uses the cruise control stalk to change through the different tunes.


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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2016, 11:39:47 am »
From your original post I didn't realise you had cruise from the start,  so yes the wire will be there.  Hopefully someone else will chirp in with some other ideas

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2016, 07:00:43 am »
Well well well. Guess what? My "G" revision CC stalk is not a "G" revision at all! I've taken it out and the yellow wires go into pins 5 & 10 just like an "A" revision.
So I'll just modify my old stalk by joining the yellow wires like in some other threads I've seen and put that back in and see what happens.
I'll give you an update to let you know how it goes.

I'll be emailing the seller of the CC stalk. Grrr!   :fighting:
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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2016, 10:03:33 am »
So after doing the wiring mod to the CC and installing it all back together I took car for a tiny drive to go and to do the steering angle sensor and the Steering Limit Stop Adaptation. But after going just afew meters the steering wheel light, ESP and ABS lights all went and and steering felt normal. At this point i checked for fault codes and Engine, ABS, Steering Wheel, Steering Assist and CAN gateway were all clear.
However, I still had the tyre pressure symbol flashing on the instrument cluster and pressing the button to reset it didn't work.
I thought maybe it will go away if I redo the steering angle sensor and the Steering Limit Stop Adaptation. Alas, it didn't and I now also have the fault back in the CAN gateway and it wont clear. 
Cruise control is now working and the faults relating to it are gone. I'll have to do some more investigating about these issues unless anyone has some ideas. :thinking:

Heres the auto scan as it stands now:
Code: [Select]
Monday,15,August,2016,20:17:44:48248
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20160803 DS255
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5U026982   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5U026982   Mileage: 143100km-88918miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115     HW: 1K0 907 115
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI G00 0070 
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1874300
   Coding: 0403000318070160
   Shop #: WSC 00080 824 179521
   VCID: 63C5DAF2A2E9C05ADD-8036

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104 
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3A7B479675E3E192AE-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BC    HW: 5K0 907 044 BC
   Component: Climatronic   H14 0608 
   Revision: 00003001   
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6DD1BCCABC2D862A7B-8038

2 Faults Found:
9472881 - Motor for Fresh Air / Recirculated Air Flap
          B108B 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 187
                    Reset counter: 30
                    Mileage: 142834 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 08:46:48

9472882 - Motor for Fresh Air / Recirculated Air Flap
          B108B 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 240
                    Mileage: 142834 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:41:36


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 N    HW: 1K0 937 049 N*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 0803 
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000001736947
   Coding: E78F0B060004180000140000140000000009FE055C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B479675E3E192AE-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401 
   Coding: 00049109
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605 
   Coding: 00218142
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 3J AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300 
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD024YEB 
   Coding: 0013130
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 2E537BC6B9AB3D3202-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME094F0742C

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME093E1D05H

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0676472ED

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME06604341Z

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           056 0111 
   Coding: 0000734
   Shop #: WSC 131071 102 209715
   VCID: 7AFB879635632192EE-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H31 0037 
   Coding: 00000130
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 860 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0812 
   Coding: 0005703
   Shop #: WSC 33895 000 104857
   VCID: 306F65BEA39F2BC210-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 R    HW: 7N0 907 530 H
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1632 
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 200113F1001586
   Coding: 350003
   Shop #: WSC 00079 790 12345
   VCID: 3F8D3682AEC1C4BA99-806A

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 00:00:23


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 860 E
   Component: IMMO            VDD 0812 
   Shop #: WSC 00080 824 89442
   VCID: 306F65BEA39F2BC210-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148 
   Coding: 0000070
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 326B6FB6AD9319D266-8066

2 Faults Found:
00120 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Driver Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0       1502 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 316960BAA89522CA1F-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AM
   Component:    KSG              0401 
   Coding: 08C802087F2D8405485F01E010CC
   Shop #: WSC 00080 824 89442
   VCID: 7BF582923A59189AF5-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148 
   Coding: 0000070
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 33656AB2528910DA6D-8066

1 Fault Found:
00121 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Passenger Side
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0002 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 74E7A9AE170757E2B4-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 190 A    HW: 5K0 035 190 A
   Component: Radio RCD510  053 0213 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3P3158648
   Coding: 0100040004000C
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 23459AF22269805A9D-8076

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0213 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 306F65BEA39F2BC210-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0213 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 316960BAA89522CA1F-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 M    HW: 7P6 035 730 M
   Component: TELEFON       H15 4217 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665888803
   Coding: 0A10000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3C77418EB7D7DFA2BC-8068

1 Fault Found:
9458195 - Control Module for Cellular Telephone
          B1052 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 240
                    Mileage: 142834 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:41:36


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:09)--------------------------
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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 06:19:50 am »
Found this in a reasonably recent post on here and it was exactly what I needed:

Copied from rosstech:

Pressure Monitoring System Reset
This procedure will NOT apply unless the vehicle has ABS based Tire Pressure Monitoring (PR-7K1/7K6) installed!
Prerequisites:
Ignition ON

[Select]
[03 - Brake Electronics]
[Basic Settings - 04]
Group 042
[Go!]
Activate the Basic Setting.
[ON/OFF/Next]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

The Tire Pressure Monitoring Lamp (K220) should blink.
Now check the Tire Pressure and correct it if necessary.
Press and Hold the Tire Pressure Monitoring Button (E492) AND the ASR/ESP Button (E256) for 2 Seconds.
A short Tone should sound after pressing/holding these buttons for 2 Seconds and the blinking should change to a permanent lit Tire Pressure Monitoring Lamp (K220).
The Reset is now done and as soon as you let the buttons go the Tire Pressure Monitoring Lamp (K220) should go OFF.


Did this and warning light on instrument cluster is gone. :jumpmove:

I still have the fault in the CAN gateway but I've no idea what it's referring to. It doesn't seem to be affecting anything.

I've got 8 out of the 12 buttons on the steering wheel working, but possibly cant get them all to work as I only have a midline MFD.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2016, 09:16:02 am by The Red Warrior »

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Re: Mk6 GTI MFSW installed. All good except....
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 08:17:41 am »
Ah, glad you found out about having to press and hold. It's always been like that , although not initially obvious.
Well done for actually doing your own research as well. you've fixed the problem, goes to show.. lol :)