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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2010, 08:15:08 pm »
I just spoke too revo today for feckin ages, and now have a better understanding of the hard ware required and what revo recommend.

The guy i spoke too seemed really clued up and genuinely passionate about GTIs, he might of actually had one i should off asked.

i got loads of great info and recommendations on which parts work best with the GTI, He recommended the intercooler for stage 2 and said that ideally he would fit it even at stage one, he has also seen amazing results with the ITG intake with one ED 30 making 40bhp and the normal K03 making 20bhp which he said he was shocked at, although this wasnt a one off as it has been repeated numerous times ! He also said that the Blueflame choice was a good one, and said it was a cracking system with the best gains ! he did also say to me that if he was going as far as im going to go that it would be best to go for the HPFP, not because of any reliabilty issues of ill running but only because of the performance gains in the mid range where the stock pump FAILS to deliver the goods, I still dont think i want to go down the road of an HPFP so ive settled on

1)VW piston Divertor
2)ITG
3)s3 intercooler
4)blueflame TBE
5)revo stage 2

He said that was a good spec and was what he would go for if it was his car but with the addition of an HPFP
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2010, 08:22:24 pm »
You will see some cracking gains with that list matey, they are all well chosen mods  :wink: :smiley:
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2010, 08:25:09 pm »
^^^^
Both EVOMS and Forge's Twintake intakes are likely to give you the same gains as ITG if you want to consider more options.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 08:48:13 pm by RedRobin »
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2010, 08:42:56 pm »
Quote from: gobbleplease on January 21, 2010, 08:15:08 pm
I just spoke too revo today for feckin ages, and now have a better understanding of the hard ware required and what revo recommend.

The guy i spoke too seemed really clued up and genuinely passionate about GTIs, he might of actually had one i should off asked.

i got loads of great info and recommendations on which parts work best with the GTI, He recommended the intercooler for stage 2 and said that ideally he would fit it even at stage one, he has also seen amazing results with the ITG intake with one ED 30 making 40bhp and the normal K03 making 20bhp which he said he was shocked at, although this wasnt a one off as it has been repeated numerous times ! He also said that the Blueflame choice was a good one, and said it was a cracking system with the best gains ! he did also say to me that if he was going as far as im going to go that it would be best to go for the HPFP, not because of any reliabilty issues of ill running but only because of the performance gains in the mid range where the stock pump FAILS to deliver the goods, I still dont think i want to go down the road of an HPFP so ive settled on

1)VW piston Divertor
2)ITG
3)s3 intercooler
4)blueflame TBE
5)revo stage 2

He said that was a good spec and was what he would go for if it was his car but with the addition of an HPFP

When I finally remap again, and not if, i will be choosing the Revo, S3 intercooler and ITG combo. The ITG intake delivered cracking gains, and they are Air Filter experts, so know their stuff.  i have chatted with Andy (ITG), and we got onto aerodynamics and airflow, and he certainly knows his stuff.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 08:44:55 pm by stokeballoon »
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2010, 08:43:49 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on January 21, 2010, 08:25:09 pm
^^^^
Both EVOMS and Forge's Twintake intercoolers are likely to give you the same gains as ITG if you want to consider more options.

I think you mean intakes RR...   :smiley:
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2010, 09:05:03 pm »
ITG all the way, REVO themselves use it and they have the whole market available to them. The would use what they believe to be the best, moneys not exactly a problem, so only hthe best for them. It is their demo vehicle after all

Saying that id still have been happy with the twintake.

As some one posted before ITG is GTI spelt backwards. :ashamed: geek lol
« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 09:30:12 pm by vRSy »
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2010, 09:25:32 pm »
thats a good point sy! onbviously i need an ITG!!   :laugh:

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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2010, 10:31:52 pm »
Quote from: vRSy on January 21, 2010, 09:05:03 pm
ITG all the way, REVO themselves use it and they have the whole market available to them. The would use what they believe to be the best, moneys not exactly a problem, so only hthe best for them. It is their demo vehicle after all

Saying that id still have been happy with the twintake.

As some one posted before ITG is GTI spelt backwards. :ashamed: geek lol

....Funny, you and I completely crossed over: Originally you were keen on the Twintake and I was exchanging long emails with Andy all about their ITG. Ultimately I decided that Andy is a better engineer than a designer and as there's not much to choose between their performance I chose the Twintake and you chose the ITG. EVOMS is up there too. As long as we are all happy that's all that matters.
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2010, 05:20:17 pm »
SO how much is stage 2+ software. My car already has Revo Stage 2 on it
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2010, 05:21:10 pm »
50 quid
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2010, 05:54:28 pm »
Quote from: gazbutS3 on January 22, 2010, 05:21:10 pm
50 quid
+ the hideous dreaded. So just under £60. A bloody bargain really for what you get.
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2010, 06:14:33 pm »
A steal really for the difference  :happy2:
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2010, 06:19:24 pm »
Even taking into account the fuel pump its still very worthwhile.

£60 for the stage 2+ map
£300 for the HPFP internals
£40-50 for fitting

and then say hello to another 15-20HP and 20-30IBft

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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2010, 06:24:51 pm »
how many of the guys on this Group buy are k03 GTI's. its about time we had some more stage 2+ ko3's on this site. this place has far to many k04 stage 2+ guys waving their willys about :P :evilgrin:.

be good to see what the average outputs are for these guys as well
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Re: GTI stage 2+ is it really worth it ?
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2010, 06:26:52 pm »
Quote from: vRSy on January 22, 2010, 06:24:51 pm
how many of the guys on this Group buy are k03 GTI's. its about time we had some more stage 2+ ko3's on this site. this place has far to many k04 stage 2+ guys waving their willys about :P :evilgrin:.

be good to see what the average outputs are for these guys as well


*raises hand.

Joe too, I think?
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