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Offline Tinytim

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DSG and high mileage cars
« on: August 12, 2016, 01:37:13 pm »
Now I've never had a DSG box but fancy going for one withy my next car.

What are the issues with higher mileage cars, as in what is likely to wear or need replacing as a car approaches 100k?

I know many Gti's have had new clutches at much less than 100k (manual cars) but what if the DSG clutch goes? Are they replaceable, any advice on DSG ownership on an 8 year old higher mileage car much appreciated.
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2016, 01:51:05 pm »
Not as much issues as you would think. there are alot of high mileage DSG engines about.
the important thing is to make sure that the DSG oil is changes on time. I think its every 20k or maybe 40k.....Can remember, google it.

Of course you do get some people with unfortunate issues where the metatronics goes faultly and needs changing......

I have DSG and wouldnt think of going back to manual again.
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2016, 02:07:23 pm »
40k
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2016, 04:03:14 pm »
What high mileage cars do we have on here. Wonder how many miles these DSG boxes can be good for when looked after.
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2016, 04:09:35 pm »
had this discussion on facebook the otherday.

from memory, one was 146k stage 2 k04
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 04:34:08 pm »
They are not as unreliable as when they first came out. They had some time to improve on stuff as I think the dsg box first came out in 2004.

But if you do get a problem then it's not the case of a new box. Lots of places now specialise in the ecu part of it and you can get the clutch plates changed but they should in theory last the life of the car.
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2016, 04:54:28 pm »
Quote from: slix on August 12, 2016, 04:34:08 pm
They are not as unreliable as when they first came out. They had some time to improve on stuff as I think the dsg box first came out in 2004.

But if you do get a problem then it's not the case of a new box. Lots of places now specialise in the ecu part of it and you can get the clutch plates changed but they should in theory last the life of the car.
I think I read a recent thread where someone was quoted 3k to fix the mechatronics?! I might be wrong (hope I am for the sake of anyone in that position) but that's quite a lump to shell out just to get a gearbox working.

It's the one and only thing that put me off looking at DSG cars before I bought mine. As it happens, the manual is one of the best boxes I've used. Apart from having to uprate the clutch (DSG clutchpacks are good for well over 400lb/ft apparently) it's perfect. Good positive feel, and the ratios are bang on.

There's no denying the DSG makes a quick car quicker though. I went out in Hurdy's old R and the acceleration was constant, and relentless, until he lifted off. The burps/farts are pretty cool too.

I'd imagine the 40k service does nothing to ensure the reliability of the actual mechatronics unit? It'd help to see some statistics, as in the percentage of DSG cars with mechatronics failure. No idea how you'd get accurate figures on that though!
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2016, 06:49:53 pm »
Nah you can get a mechatronic unit sent off to ecu testing to be repaired for about 600/700 I think. Not cheap or not mega expensive I know but at least there are more companies out there now with the knowledge to help.

And with most stuff, you only hear about the bad stuff on forums, not the good as much  :happy2:

I love my dsg and could never go back to a manual now. I read somewhere that boost doesn't drop off either like when you are in a manual and have to dip the clutch and change gear with the revs falling etc.

And when I want to have some fun I slide the stick left to manual mode and use it like a manual car  :happy2:
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2016, 07:16:17 pm »
125k DSG golf GTI owner here and still going strong and wouldn't want to swap it for anything else (unless it's a MK6 R..DSG Of course  :evilgrin:)

See my build thread for more info if required  :happy2:
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2016, 07:43:08 pm »
I think the best part of owning a dsg is being able to remap without worrying about the clutch as a manual and the noise from the exhaust on change up.
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2016, 08:15:56 pm »
Got a taxi customer with 370k original dsg box on his passat. As long as the service has been done every 40k you should be ok :)
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 08:55:29 pm »
I have done 100k without servicing my dsg its on 164k now
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 08:57:51 pm »
Quote from: Llew on August 12, 2016, 08:55:29 pm
I have done 100k without servicing my dsg its on 164k now
Interesting but why would you not have it serviced lol
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2016, 09:05:47 pm »
Quote from: Llew on August 12, 2016, 08:55:29 pm
I have done 100k without servicing my dsg its on 164k now

One not to buy when it comes up for sale  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Re: DSG and high mileage cars
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2016, 09:07:14 pm »
Before I didn't see the need to do it every 40k Can't be bothered now mileage is so high
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