Toureg and Q7 calipers

[r5gtt]

What about the 6 pot calipers?. will they fit?. @Shoduchi or anyone in the know thanks

[Shoduchi]

What about the 6 pot calipers?. will they fit?. @Shoduchi or anyone in the know thanks

With those wheels you'll always need spacers with Brembo calipers. You can only fit R32/R20/S3/TTS calipers behind those. The mk7 Golf R and other cars that share the same caliper have an improved version with a smaller and lighter caliper with a bit bigger piston.

[AJP]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

[r5gtt]

What about the 6 pot calipers?. will they fit?. @Shoduchi or anyone in the know thanks

With those wheels you'll always need spacers with Brembo calipers. You can only fit R32/R20/S3/TTS calipers behind those. The mk7 Golf R and other cars that share the same caliper have an improved version with a smaller and lighter caliper with a bit bigger piston.

hmm  I'm wondering whether to go brembo with spacers as I did with the tt or as you mentioned the ttrs R20 ones as I'm thinking the S3 ones maybe too small imo but I maybe wrong.

[r5gtt]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

imho I can tell you that oem brakes aren't up to the job when it comes to upping the hp unless they're rs or ttrs ones and I know that from personal experience so thinking I may as well go big as I'll need to be stopping quick if I want to go forward.

[AJP]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

imho I can tell you that oem brakes aren't up to the job when it comes to upping the hp unless they're rs or ttrs ones and I know that from personal experience so thinking I may as well go big as I'll need to be stopping quick if I want to go forward.

Fair play mate, I guess I should be doing the same, but for me there's always a bit of the 'brake porn' factor involved in the 4/6pot kits. It's the law of diminishing returns. I should hopefully have the whole kit on and working for about 500 quid. The cost of the bigger stuff all adds up, before it's even fitted.

My main aim is to avoid debilitating fade, rather than have something that puts me through the windscreen. I think I got to the point where I asked myself how far I really needed to go with it. Would spending another 500 quid get me twice the performance.

Anyway, we'll see. I might end up going for a bigger kit at some point if these don't cut it. But I thought it'd be interesting to see how well they cope, they're still a bit niche. If I've got it right, the piston diameter on these is 3mm bigger than the usual S3/R32 caliper. Could be good, might be crap!

[Wolf Burger]

Brembos 18Z fit well under an 18'' wheel. With OZ Ultras I didn't need to use spacers.

What size and offset are you running on the OZ ultras Shoduchi??

[r5gtt]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

imho I can tell you that oem brakes aren't up to the job when it comes to upping the hp unless they're rs or ttrs ones and I know that from personal experience so thinking I may as well go big as I'll need to be stopping quick if I want to go forward.

Fair play mate, I guess I should be doing the same, but for me there's always a bit of the 'brake porn' factor involved in the 4/6pot kits. It's the law of diminishing returns. I should hopefully have the whole kit on and working for about 500 quid. The cost of the bigger stuff all adds up, before it's even fitted.

My main aim is to avoid debilitating fade, rather than have something that puts me through the windscreen. I think I got to the point where I asked myself how far I really needed to go with it. Would spending another 500 quid get me twice the performance.

Anyway, we'll see. I might end up going for a bigger kit at some point if these don't cut it. But I thought it'd be interesting to see how well they cope, they're still a bit niche. If I've got it right, the piston diameter on these is 3mm bigger than the usual S3/R32 caliper. Could be good, might be crap!

The best way to find out is get them on and do the runs I guess. when I mapped the tt I was on oem brakes and even before the map they were very spongy and weak. Brembos were sitting in the box awaiting paint and within the space of a few days after the map I'd painted them and fitted them on with the Hel braided hoses. nearly snapped my neck braking  they were stupidly sharp and brake fade was now a minimum in comparison. imho best to upgrade the lines when replacing calipers or even on oem as the harder the line the less chance of spongy braking.

I'd really like to spend no more than £600 but fat chance of that if I go 6pots  Just need to know if they'll fit under the R32 rims with spacers. 

[AJP]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

imho I can tell you that oem brakes aren't up to the job when it comes to upping the hp unless they're rs or ttrs ones and I know that from personal experience so thinking I may as well go big as I'll need to be stopping quick if I want to go forward.

Fair play mate, I guess I should be doing the same, but for me there's always a bit of the 'brake porn' factor involved in the 4/6pot kits. It's the law of diminishing returns. I should hopefully have the whole kit on and working for about 500 quid. The cost of the bigger stuff all adds up, before it's even fitted.

My main aim is to avoid debilitating fade, rather than have something that puts me through the windscreen. I think I got to the point where I asked myself how far I really needed to go with it. Would spending another 500 quid get me twice the performance.

Anyway, we'll see. I might end up going for a bigger kit at some point if these don't cut it. But I thought it'd be interesting to see how well they cope, they're still a bit niche. If I've got it right, the piston diameter on these is 3mm bigger than the usual S3/R32 caliper. Could be good, might be crap!

The best way to find out is get them on and do the runs I guess. when I mapped the tt I was on oem brakes and even before the map they were very spongy and weak. Brembos were sitting in the box awaiting paint and within the space of a few days after the map I'd painted them and fitted them on with the Hel braided hoses. nearly snapped my neck braking  they were stupidly sharp and brake fade was now a minimum in comparison. imho best to upgrade the lines when replacing calipers or even on oem as the harder the line the less chance of spongy braking.

I'd really like to spend no more than £600 but fat chance of that if I go 6pots  Just need to know if they'll fit under the R32 rims with spacers. 

Yeah I'll see how it goes. Although I don't want to test them to the point they completely fade unless I've got access to an airfield or something. It's a scary feeling!

I'd imagine I could move them on quick enough if I'm not happy with them. But if they're good enough for the fastest front drive car around the Ring (if that record still stands) they're good enough for me.

As for spacers with the 18z, I'd bet my balls you'll need some with your wheels.

[r5gtt]

I personally researched (to death) all the 6-pot and 4-pot options, including the 18z.

In the end I picked up a pair of mk7 GTI PP/Clubsport calipers (same as mk7 R/8v S3) which admittedly won't have quite the stopping power of the 18z or TTRS caliper, but the discs are light, pads are cheap, and I won't need spacers.



Time will tell whether they're enough for my intended 350bhp. If not, it's back to the drawing board.

imho I can tell you that oem brakes aren't up to the job when it comes to upping the hp unless they're rs or ttrs ones and I know that from personal experience so thinking I may as well go big as I'll need to be stopping quick if I want to go forward.

Fair play mate, I guess I should be doing the same, but for me there's always a bit of the 'brake porn' factor involved in the 4/6pot kits. It's the law of diminishing returns. I should hopefully have the whole kit on and working for about 500 quid. The cost of the bigger stuff all adds up, before it's even fitted.

My main aim is to avoid debilitating fade, rather than have something that puts me through the windscreen. I think I got to the point where I asked myself how far I really needed to go with it. Would spending another 500 quid get me twice the performance.

Anyway, we'll see. I might end up going for a bigger kit at some point if these don't cut it. But I thought it'd be interesting to see how well they cope, they're still a bit niche. If I've got it right, the piston diameter on these is 3mm bigger than the usual S3/R32 caliper. Could be good, might be crap!

The best way to find out is get them on and do the runs I guess. when I mapped the tt I was on oem brakes and even before the map they were very spongy and weak. Brembos were sitting in the box awaiting paint and within the space of a few days after the map I'd painted them and fitted them on with the Hel braided hoses. nearly snapped my neck braking  they were stupidly sharp and brake fade was now a minimum in comparison. imho best to upgrade the lines when replacing calipers or even on oem as the harder the line the less chance of spongy braking.

I'd really like to spend no more than £600 but fat chance of that if I go 6pots  Just need to know if they'll fit under the R32 rims with spacers. 

Yeah I'll see how it goes. Although I don't want to test them to the point they completely fade unless I've got access to an airfield or something. It's a scary feeling!

I'd imagine I could move them on quick enough if I'm not happy with them. But if they're good enough for the fastest front drive car around the Ring (if that record still stands) they're good enough for me.

As for spacers with the 18z, I'd bet my balls you'll need some with your wheels.

See they're good enough for the ring but what are they like when giving it some beans and constantly braking when required. That's why people upgrade from the oem to bigger better braking if you understand what I mean by people upgrading from what they originally have as stock items?. I donr mind getting spacers as long as the wheel fits over the brakes in question 18Z as my tt need 20mm spacers up front as the 15mm touched the wheels and I figured that out when I threw in a wheel after fitting the calipers and scratched one caliper quickly drooped all wheels and took the rear 20's off and fitted them up front luckily I was running spacers att or I would have been stuck. 
I think your calipers are nice but not what I'd be fitting if I'm upping the power this for sure. 300bhp R with those brakes aren't anything to brag about when you suddenly hit a wall imho. not literally  I'm mot being funny huni lol just being cautious from the start.

[AJP]

It should be me doing the big expensive thing and you doing it on the cheap!

They're still in the box anyway. Only bought the calipers for now. I might just surprise you all and pull out a big AP Racing setup after I sell these on...

[Shoduchi]

Brembos 18Z fit well under an 18'' wheel. With OZ Ultras I didn't need to use spacers.

What size and offset are you running on the OZ ultras Shoduchi??

The wheels are 8x18 ET45.

[Wolf Burger]

Brembos 18Z fit well under an 18'' wheel. With OZ Ultras I didn't need to use spacers.

What size and offset are you running on the OZ ultras Shoduchi??

The wheels are 8x18 ET45.

  Thanks.
My 18Z calipers went into the paint shop today!!

They are going behind 19 inch Tallies so am expecting 8mm spacers being required.
may get some OZ Ultras or TD1.3's. Not sure yet till I have had the test fitting.

[Shoduchi]

The Leon 290 that had the Ring record had an upgraded braking kit fitted. The Leon has that as option kit, basically it's the same kit as the TTRS/RS3. 

The GTI Clubsport S has specific pads (more heat resistant) and the discs have an aluminium bowl to resist warping from track use.

[r5gtt]

It should be me doing the big expensive thing and you doing it on the cheap!

They're still in the box anyway. Only bought the calipers for now. I might just surprise you all and pull out a big AP Racing setup after I sell these on...

lol I wouldn't go that far mate