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Intake waste of money?
Madone:
--- Quote from: Pudding on September 13, 2016, 02:17:58 pm ---Yeah that's true, the OEM airbox filters a lot of noise out. Out of interest, what does your wife drive day to day? My gf drives a MK4 1.6 Golf, which literally is one of the slowest cars I've ever driven, so when she drives mine, she's a complete nutter in it. Drives it harder than I do!! I don't appreciate how quick the car is until I'm a passenger in it. They're pretty bonkers these remapped ED30s aren't they? :grin:
Anyway, looks like the VWR kit has come down (a little!) in price. I didn't spot one for an Edition on Awesome's site. I guess a MK6 R one would work?
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My wife drives a new Q5 3ltr TDI, but like all new audi's it's super quiet but has tons of torque and great for all the baby gear in the boot. She sometimes drives my RS3 too, tbh she thinks the golf is too much of a handful :happy2:, the RS3 is just as powerful but more refined compared. It's really the reason I have kept the golf and like driving it (although don't drive it enough), it's a totally different experience, really exciting and more old school turbo than the other cars. That's really the appeal for me. As you say a mapped ed30 is something to behold , regardless of what else you drive ! :jumpmove:
xs2man:
--- Quote from: Pudding on September 13, 2016, 04:27:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: xs2man on September 13, 2016, 03:52:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: Pudding on September 13, 2016, 02:17:58 pm ---
Anyway, looks like the VWR kit has come down (a little!) in price. I didn't spot one for an Edition on Awesome's site. I guess a MK6 R one would work?
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This not it? https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/volkswagen-racing/volkswagen-racing-intake-system-vw-golf-mk5-2-0tfsi/
£438 for an intake though? You boys must have more money than sense. I couldn't possibly justify that sort of outlay on an air filter, and I thought the Revo was expensive, lol. (Although I do have a Carbonio fitted to my ED30, I certainly didn't fit it).
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That's for the GTI chap. The Edition 30 has a front mounted dump valve that throws it's waste choo choos into the turbo intake pipe. The MK6 R kit shows the right turbo intake pipe for that.
I know what you mean. Crazy cash isn't it. It's a good way to get rid of the annoying engine cover and solve the associated heat soak issues though. It does also appear to give good gains when the boost is whacked up to the max too. But yeah, 44 sheets on an air filter. The missus would think I'd lost the plot if I bought one. Then again, £1000 for a handbag?!?
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There is an option button to click for the ED30 chap. :drinking: Look at the second picture even.
FJ1000:
Anyone done any before and after dyno runs, or peak MAF readings?
A dyno might not be the best environment for testing an intake (relatively poor airflow vs on the road, potential for heat soak), but could be interesting nonetheless.
pudding:
Some bold claims for the VWR one. Up to +9% peak power and turbo spool reduced by 500rpm. The latter I'm a little skeptical of personally, given it's the turbine wheel / housing that has the biggest influence on spool up :smiley:
They don't state under what conditions and mechanical spec you get those gains. For example, do you need a full exhaust to see those improvements? And at what boost pressure and rpm do you see that +9% increase in hp?
£450 is a lot to take a punt on it, based on vague sales pitching.
I suspect VW Racing saw those gains on their own racing car, which runs shed loads of boost, full exhaust etc etc. I reckon a mild stage 1 tune with just a DP would probably see about +5% because at 1.4-1.5 bar, the turbo isn't struggling that badly to get air in. So around 15hp for £450? I don't really see that as a good £ per hp investment personally, but that's only because that kind of money is almost a VWR spring a damper set, which would give more profound and noticeable gains from the get go :)
bonelorry:
--- Quote from: Shoduchi on September 13, 2016, 01:17:43 am ---
--- Quote from: baka on September 12, 2016, 08:18:30 pm ---Are the OEM intakes and air boxes identical between the eddy and the GTI?
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The air filter is different, it seems. Same shape but less restrictive for Ed. 30 and mk6 Golf R.
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This is correct,
The normal GTI Panel filter is P/N 06F133843A, The Edition 30/Pirelli Filter is P/N 06F133843B.
They are both identical in shape but the Edition 30/Pirelli filter is thinner and less restrictive. It is also the same filter on the MK6 Golf R and I would presume the Edition 35 also :happy2:
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