All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
HPFP at what point??
RedRobin:
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Once you have decided at what point to fit a HPFP, the next question has to be which one? And so we have to grasp the nettle of Autotech vs APR.
It's well known that the earlier Autotech pumps had problems but I understand that those issues have been resolved. Certainly a car such as Jonny's is a good testament to the Autotech's reliability but for a supplier such as JKM to feel they can support it they would have to yet again test it numerous times.
However critical one is about APR's promotional methods and high retail price, the fact is that their HPFP has been thoroughly developed, extremely well tested and proven to be reliable - The Scirocco 24hrs and Championship Leon's are testament to that for example. What helps that is the APR being a complete unit rather than just internals which have to be installed by the consumer or a third-party workshop - A clinically clean environment for installation is essential or you risk introducing problematic variables. The APR pump is fit-and-forget and gives peace of mind.
Revo recommend the Autotech and what's especially valuable about the Revo remaps is the ability to fine tune the Boost/Timing/Fuel and hence better protect and accommodate a variety of ongoing performance hardware modifications. In my particular case, this allows me to take time to consider my options while still achieving a healthy and well balanced car. Balance is what it's all about imo rather than always seeking the max. Lots of car enthusiasts seek the absolute max: Max power and max for minimum money - But some of us are different.
Price inevitably raises its ugly head and most people constantly seek to pay as little as possible with an expectation for as much as possible in return for their money. The APR is very expensive and the Autotech is much much cheaper - Hmmm, you'll have to make up your own mind. I favour sitting back for now - My car's ECU adjusts fuelling without problems as needed within my Boost setting and delivers very enjoyable and respectable power even if it's not reaching its maximum potential. I'm happy with the balance.
If/when I do decide to get a HPFP it'll probably be the APR, fitted by JKM and fully supported. But I expect I'll get an intercooler first.
tony_danza:
In the interests of balance Robin, rather than posting a load of hearsay, I can give you Claudio at Autotechs email address and phone number, I know him quite well. The other side of the story is just as interesting.
I'm not going to defend anyone, they're big enough to do it themselves, but posting that kind of crap is just rediculous, ill-informed and biased.
SteveP:
^^^^ Well said Mike :notworthy:
Robin, these kinds of posts really don't help anyone and just drag this site in the kind of "heated" discussions we see over the pond, as you know this is not something we welcome here.
MAT ED30:
Robin you know we all love u but sometimes you talk crap and are always jumping on the bandwagon of the big tuners and say they are the best and everything else is the cheaper option and everything on your car is the best and u know its best as thats what u have been told by these people like jkm and others. I for one only use VWR simply as i have known Mat for a long time and he is a mate of mine from the air cooled scene and have made very good friends with the other staff and i think its good to have a race team/company out there that will test things to death and also help u if you have a problem.I dont run a uprated pump on my car yet and i for one would not go apr due to cost and the fact that all they have done is to put in an apr version of the others into a stock pump so the price is crazy :confused:.
ifact if we want to start saying products are crap or paying more gets u a better product well osir bonnet springs to mind :surprised: i would have gone vwr real carbonfiber and not paid the price from osir :laugh: its all about VFM :signLOL:
Love u Robin and u know u we all do
y am i going on :laugh:
RedRobin:
^^^^
Ok, so some of you aren't interested in a site member (myself in this case) sharing information, opinions and reasons of choice about the HPFP's which are currently available in the context of a thread about when to install a HPFP.
It's only my individual view, why get so fussed about it?
I'm just openly expressing one point of view or reasoning for choice rather than wishing to encourage any heated discussions. However, in hindsight I can see that my post might be interpreted as trashing Autotech when in fact all I think is that the APR pump is a preferable option for me and possibly others.
P.S. - I love you too, Mat! I would have chosen the VWR carbon bonnet over my OSIR but they weren't producing it at the time.
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