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HPFP at what point??
Msportman:
I don't think the exchange rate helps matters as far as Awesome's concerned as the pricing is pretty much dictated by APR. I know that at certain times APR run offers on their products and often have sales in the US.
I know that APR is one of a very few companies worldwide that has the specific technology (Hitachi) machine required for developing this item.
APR certainly developed much of the Scirrocco tech with VAG Motorsport division and have been on the right side of VAG for race car development which helps their marketing of products and promotes their brand.
I certainly would agree that their big turbo kits are too expensive in the current financial climate but there again you could say that of MTM or Oettinger but the European market is so much different to ours.
I don't know what the other pumps are like but choose the APR one due to the deal I got and the package that was tied up with their fuel pump code initially on stage 1 HPFP code then progressing on to stage 2.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: Msportman on February 17, 2010, 12:29:37 am ---
I know that APR is one of a very few companies worldwide that has the specific technology (Hitachi) machine required for developing this item.
APR certainly developed much of the Scirrocco tech with VAG Motorsport division and have been on the right side of VAG for race car development which helps their marketing of products and promotes their brand.
I certainly would agree that their big turbo kits are too expensive in the current financial climate but there again you could say that of MTM or Oettinger but the European market is so much different to ours.
--- End quote ---
^^^^ These are the same reasons I would choose the APR HPFP, and also because of JKM's recommendation.
However, regarding the topic's question of "at what point", I simply don't need to. On a K03 turbo with about 255 neddies and Revo2 settings fine tuned to accommodate all my mods, why bother?
Regarding the cam follower, I'm told that you shouldn't expect any wear sufficient to change it unless you are running an aftermarket fuel pump.
Bogdanbd:
YES you are right.
In this moment I still have the stock pump and I'm doing 340HP with 460NM, just made a dyno today after installing the BSH mounts. It run OK until now and still does.
Of course I think this is it's top limit and since I want to go higher I would need a HPFP......and I'm back at the topics' discussion: which one to choose.
I narrow it down to 2: APR and Autotech version 2 rebuild. APR is 3 times more expensive, I've many ppl telling me the AT is very very OK, I'm reading here...still I'm not 100% convinced...
This is really a tough choice for me because I really do not want to through away 600+ USD - the difference between them.
RedRobin:
As usual with such choices, those who have one product will swear it's the best (unless it's absolute rubbish) and those who have another product will swear theirs is the best. People like to justify to themselves the choices they have made.
Summing up, the Autotech now (didn't used to be) appears to be absolutely fine, and the APR always has been top notch but comes at a huge financial cost.
Modding is a very slippery slope!
Msportman:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on February 17, 2010, 11:58:32 pm ---As usual with such choices, those who have one product will swear it's the best (unless it's absolute rubbish) and those who have another product will swear theirs is the best. People like to justify to themselves the choices they have made.
Summing up, the Autotech now (didn't used to be) appears to be absolutely fine, and the APR always has been top notch but comes at a huge financial cost.
Modding is a very slippery slope!
--- End quote ---
I think Awesome were doing some deals on APR pumps a short time ago.
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