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Offline Namsgti

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2016, 04:16:13 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 05:17:56 pm »
yeah they are old now

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2016, 05:36:42 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know
Easy to say that when you've got a mk6 R

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2016, 06:35:23 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know
Easy to say that when you've got a mk6 R

Sorry think it came out not the way I wanted it to,
What I'm trying to say spending 10k on a 10 year old car is a lot of money.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2016, 06:57:48 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know
Easy to say that when you've got a mk6 R

Sorry think it came out not the way I wanted it to,
What I'm trying to say spending 10k on a 10 year old car is a lot of money.

Depends entirely on the car.  £10k on a 10 year old Ferrari is cheap.  £10k on a 10 year old fiesta, not so much.  Cars are worth what they are worth.  It's up to the buyer to decide if it's worth it to them.  The Edition 30 isn't JUST a regular GTI.  It's a limited, special edition, with bits of spec not found elsewhere.  Of course, it has better tuning potential also, but at the end of the day, they are worth what they are worth.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2016, 06:58:50 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know
Easy to say that when you've got a mk6 R

Sorry think it came out not the way I wanted it to,
What I'm trying to say spending 10k on a 10 year old car is a lot of money.
True. There seemed to be a good 3-4k difference in price between comparable GTIs and ed30s when I was looking for one 18 months ago.

Even with the cost of a k04 conversion on a GTI the ed30 still looks like a lot of money for what it is.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2016, 07:24:22 pm »
Nothing special about a ed30 they old cars know
Easy to say that when you've got a mk6 R

Sorry think it came out not the way I wanted it to,
What I'm trying to say spending 10k on a 10 year old car is a lot of money.
True. There seemed to be a good 3-4k difference in price between comparable GTIs and ed30s when I was looking for one 18 months ago.

Even with the cost of a k04 conversion on a GTI the ed30 still looks like a lot of money for what it is.

The ed30 bodykit wont be cheap either, and makes a lot of difference to the look of the car. 

I don't think there is that much difference in prices now.  Mine was only £1k more than a more local GTI, with ropey history.  Grated, that was from a dealer rather than private, like the ed30 was, but still, not a huge difference in price, for similar mileage motors (the GTI was about 15k less miles, but much poorer history).

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2016, 07:36:21 pm »
Yeah I've got an ed30 front, painted sides and an R32 rear. It all adds up. Always seems to be the way things go with modding though - bit by bit upgrading to parts off a better/faster model until you get to a point where you've spent so much you could have bought the better car with the money you've spent. I didn't have a 10k budget at the time unfortunately.

And the fun for me is in the modding, and learning lots as I go.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2016, 09:52:34 am »
Having been looking for a GTI I can still say that Ed30's still start around £9k for a 57 plate with around 70-80k miles. That's around £2.5-3k more than a similar age and mileage GTI.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2016, 10:28:21 am »
I agree, that's much more like the margin of difference. You can't compare a private ED 30 against a Dealer standard GTI - the comparisons have to be 'like for like' - otherwise it's meaningless. A dealer will have overheads, warranty, profit etc.....adding up to £2,000, at least, on exactly the same car.....opinion

Add in strong demand for ED 30; fewer in the supply chain, and there you have the £3000 difference.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2016, 01:08:54 pm »
I agree, that's much more like the margin of difference. You can't compare a private ED 30 against a Dealer standard GTI - the comparisons have to be 'like for like' - otherwise it's meaningless. A dealer will have overheads, warranty, profit etc.....adding up to £2,000, at least, on exactly the same car.....opinion

Add in strong demand for ED 30; fewer in the supply chain, and there you have the £3000 difference.

The differences are significantly less than you seem to think.  A quick search on AT, looking at 80-90k examples (around average miles for a car this age), shows the following:

Private... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610028345968?search-target=usedcars&make=volkswagen&model=golf&year-from=2007&year-to=2007&minimum-mileage=from_80000_miles&maximum-mileage=up_to_90000_miles&fuel-type=petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&maximum-badge-engine-size=2.0&page=1&sort=default&postcode=b902ee&searchcontext=default&radius=1501&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=3

GTI, £5,995, 88k

Dealer...  http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608307261150?search-target=usedcars&make=volkswagen&model=golf&year-from=2007&year-to=2007&minimum-mileage=from_80000_miles&maximum-mileage=up_to_90000_miles&fuel-type=petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&maximum-badge-engine-size=2.0&sort=default&page=2&radius=1501&postcode=b902ee&searchcontext=default&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=1

GTI, £6950, 85k

Dealer...  http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609298244491?search-target=usedcars&make=volkswagen&model=golf&year-from=2007&year-to=2007&minimum-mileage=from_80000_miles&maximum-mileage=up_to_90000_miles&fuel-type=petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&maximum-badge-engine-size=2.0&sort=default&page=2&radius=1501&postcode=b902ee&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&logcode=p&adPos=3

ED30, £8995, 85k

Notice there is only 1k difference between the private and dealer GTI's.  Certainly not £2k+ as you're suggesting.

Notice also there is only £2k difference between the dealer GTI and ED30?  And the ED30 has DSG, Miltek, Revo, Stage 1 map, 18's, Kenwood Nav, Bodykit etc...  I'm sure the mods aren't adding anything to the value here, but it does represent less money needing spent once you have bought it.  I am unsure what a k04 conversion would cost second hand, but APR are more than the £2k difference here.  I suspect after you take into account the extras on the ED30, you wouldn't have enough left over for a k04 conversion on the traders GTI.

I am also comparing vehicles here with good service histories, and recent cambelt servicing (DSG servicing on the ED30 too).  There may well be differences in body condition, but that will only be evident upon viewing.  For comparison purposes, they all look as clean and well cared for as each other.

Maybe, when you are looking at sub-40k example the difference there is more pronounced.  But these are almost 10 year old cars now.  There can't be many left with such low miles, so a premium for that should be expected, especially on limited edition models.

Basically, what I am saying here is, the cost differences between them aren't as much as you lot seem to think they are.  My one was bought for £6125, with 97k, xenons, nav, H&R springs, Miltek, APR intake, Carbon Fibre Osir Engine Cover, parrot BT, full service history, just had it's timing chain done (belt needing done in April though) along with gaskets, tensioner, Cam follower, DV, etc, , brakes not long done, clean bodywork etc...  I probably could have got a GTI with that spec for a little less, but it would only have been a little less.


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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2016, 07:01:10 pm »
Or you could buy my ed30 for £6995!!!! It's got everything you need  :happy2: :laugh:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,109160.0.html






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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2016, 09:42:54 am »
Or you could buy my ed30 for £6995!!!! It's got everything you need  :happy2: :laugh:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,109160.0.html

That is a great price for that condition and spec!

I've been toying with moving on from my ED30 too, but the newer VWs whilst being a hell of a lot more refined, just don't amuse me like the MK5 with beefy power does!


2007 ED30 | 2009 TDI 140 | 2016 BMW 330D

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2016, 12:01:55 pm »
I missed out on an 08 plate 5 door edition 30 with 120k that was £3500, someone I know bought it. I was seriously gutted.
£3500 that's stupidly cheap unless something is seriously not right with it I'm shocked.  :surprised:


I offered him £4K for it and he turned it down. It got the wings replaced under warranty and the bonnet painted at the same time. It was traded in at his work against a new mk7 R.

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Re: Silly cheap edition 30 4k
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2016, 05:10:23 pm »
I missed out on an 08 plate 5 door edition 30 with 120k that was £3500, someone I know bought it. I was seriously gutted.
£3500 that's stupidly cheap unless something is seriously not right with it I'm shocked.  :surprised:


I offered him £4K for it and he turned it down. It got the wings replaced under warranty and the bonnet painted at the same time. It was traded in at his work against a new mk7 R.

I wonder how much the trade in was and if he made a profit?