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Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« on: October 15, 2016, 04:18:54 pm »
I have recently had an R-Tech stage 2+ on my 05 Gti and she's just been in for cambelt, tensioner, water pump and alternator belt. I've just got her back from the dealers and she feels a bit sluggish, am I just used to the new power or do they wipe it at the dealers?
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 04:36:34 pm »
They would probably have disconnected the battery when doing the timing belt that might have something to do with it mate

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 04:43:52 pm »
I have recently had an R-Tech stage 2+ on my 05 Gti and she's just been in for cambelt, tensioner, water pump and alternator belt. I've just got her back from the dealers and she feels a bit sluggish, am I just used to the new power or do they wipe it at the dealers?
R-Tech maps aren't lost with battery disconnections but the dealer might have "updated" your engine ECU making you lose the remap. Other than that a failed DV can also be the problem and be completely unrelated to the maintenance done recently. Check with your mechanic if the boost is right, for example, or contact R-Tech for a diagnosis on the map.

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 04:52:29 pm »
Ah okay :) I'll have to go for a spirited drive tomorrow, just to make double sure...if not I'll have to give R-tech a ring on Monday, as they did a GFB DV+ for me when it was remapped
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 05:00:25 pm »
Ah okay :) I'll have to go for a spirited drive tomorrow, just to make double sure...if not I'll have to give R-tech a ring on Monday, as they did a GFB DV+ for me when it was remapped
So no split DV then. I have a GFB DV+ and I don't think it can fail easily. Check if the cambelt was correctly fitted and the timing isn't out.

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 05:04:04 pm »
How would I go about that?
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 05:12:42 pm »
How would I go about that?
A mechanic can do it. I think the engine has to be put in TDC (top dead centre) to see if the timing belt mark matches the engine mark. Other than that a log can help too, I think.

Others more knowledgeable might help more how to check that. :thinking:

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 05:16:36 pm »
Ah okay :) thanks buddy, I appreciate it :)
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 08:33:20 pm »
R-Tech map can reset to map 1 if you have the 5 switchable maps..... Worth checking......

Otherwise the cam timing might be out....

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 09:05:42 pm »
When you say dealer, do you mean service at a  VW main agent?

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2016, 11:47:20 pm »
Yeah it was at my local VW dealership, been using them for 3 years with no troubles...
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 11:34:23 am »
Check the timing belt, they might have put it on a tooth out

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 03:11:41 pm »
Does that mean taking it to a garage?
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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 04:53:26 pm »
Do you have VCDS? You can check with that... If not, yes it will be a trip to a garage

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Re: Stage 2+ feels sluggish
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2016, 05:30:04 pm »
I only have the Carista app
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