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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2016, 04:10:20 pm »
Off it is then lol
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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2016, 06:08:36 pm »
The R-Tech is a lot better in terms of it won't kill power as much or for as long as the standard.... it will 'cut in' just as frequently as it reacts to wheelspin in the same way.

I turn it off to get off the line quickly, otherwise for road use it stays on....
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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2016, 07:11:04 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2016, 07:31:59 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2016, 11:28:01 am »
Is the TC ever FULLY off?


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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2016, 11:46:35 am »
Yes. Well mine is on the Leon anyway
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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2016, 12:00:36 pm »
No issues here. FWD and will always behave a certain way but it's not problem and never has me thinking it has too much power etc. An LSD may have a heavy bearing on that possibly along with other suspension components. I tend to leave TC on, you can feel it cut in but the LSD has the bigger influence under some circumstances.

I would like a Syvecs ECU one day though...a very refined way to control power/torque delivery.

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2016, 12:14:56 pm »
I always turn the traction control off every time i go any where, much easier to control than the pesky ABS cutting in imo.

Me too. Hardly ever have it on :happy2:

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2016, 02:11:54 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

haha I've got pirelli p zero and they stick well. although only running around 240 bhp

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2016, 02:59:09 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

haha I've got pirelli p zero and they stick well. although only running around 240 bhp
Yep, stage 1 was actually ok (around 300lbft). Stage 2 is a bit trickier.

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2016, 05:58:02 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

haha I've got pirelli p zero and they stick well. although only running around 240 bhp
Yep, stage 1 was actually ok (around 300lbft). Stage 2 is a bit trickier.
Yeah, it's a lot trickier but it all depends on our right foot. Pointless to step too much on the gas with damp roads at lower speeds.

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2016, 07:41:42 pm »
Traction/ESP on is brutal. I turn mine off each time I get going. Traction when launching is fickle. I have a std. GTI but with a K04, S3 injectors and fmic, upgraded hpfp, tuned plus, and have 330-340bhp...pretty much an ED30 tuned. My launches are quite unimpressive. They might be better with the best traction tires ever to be mounted along with LSD, but I haven't done that yet. All runs have been with my daily street tires. I just looked, unsuccessfully, for a video I saw a long time ago where someone was at the 1/4 track using ESP and going full throttle off the line...it looked as brutal as mine feels when I try it. You just have to learn its traction limit and practice often when you have the chance.

One day with mine at the track for viewing unimpressive launches...


On the road coarse...probably best to evaluate your driving skills while remaining unbiased. Leave the ESP on if you think you might go beyond the limits...but if you know its limits on the coarse, given all current conditions and road knowledge, go on and take ESP off. I drive with ESP off and remain in control on public roads. Sometimes I spin, but it's only because I want to. I just never have to experience the brutality of the front brakes trying to rip off the front end with ESP off. I do have all three up-rated mounts and W.A.L.K., but still if ESP is on you get a brutal response.
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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2016, 09:44:19 pm »
This is how we all want to launch...
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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2016, 09:46:51 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

haha I've got pirelli p zero and they stick well. although only running around 240 bhp
Yep, stage 1 was actually ok (around 300lbft). Stage 2 is a bit trickier.
ahh I see. I'm hoping to sort out my stage 2 very soon so I will experience that soon  I'm sure. just need to work out what exhaust downpipe to go with and map!

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Re: Traction control... on or off?
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2016, 10:09:17 pm »
no traction control and a good set of tyres lol
I'm on MPSS and it's still a struggle! F*cking brilliant in the corners though.

haha I've got pirelli p zero and they stick well. although only running around 240 bhp
Yep, stage 1 was actually ok (around 300lbft). Stage 2 is a bit trickier.
ahh I see. I'm hoping to sort out my stage 2 very soon so I will experience that soon  I'm sure. just need to work out what exhaust downpipe to go with and map!
I went for a full Powervalve with sport cat and it's bloody brilliant. Looks good, sounds insane, and gives big power gains across the rev range, especially after the Stage 2 R-Tech map. Not cheap, but I'm really glad I did it.