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Febi engine mounts
« on: December 06, 2016, 07:11:38 pm »
Just wondering if anyone knows if Febi make the original engine mounts for VW as I want new ones but don't think I can stand extra NVH of after market mounts 

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 09:34:40 pm »
Am also looking for new mounts. VWR subframe mount made a nice improvement but I dont want anymore NVH.

I think most people would opt for original mounts (which wear out quickly) but filled with sillicone.

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2016, 11:37:20 pm »
I'm also interested in finding out more


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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 09:13:39 am »
Febi from ECP would be worse than new originals, been there, done that!

Filling the voids in original mounts would need to be done with liquid urethane of around 40 durometer.  Silicon would just squeeze out.

034 Motorsport 'Street Density' are apparently quite good for NVH, but a few concerns on build quality, and they're not cheap.

Vibratechnics in 'Fast road' flavor are probably the best at what they do whilst keeping NVH as low as possible, but with all 3 you're still going to get some increased vibration in the cabin.

DLI Technik from Sweden make some amazing mounts (springs instead of rubber) but transmission noise increases a lot.

It's one of the hardest compromises to get right.



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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2016, 02:54:16 pm »
Thank you Pudding,

Looks like am going for the Vibratechnics then

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2016, 04:06:07 pm »
@pudding - sorry if I'm being a bit dull  :confused: but,  by Febi being worse than OEM do you mean softer? or just bad quality?

Only asking as I have a set in the garage and had been planning on replacing my 114,000 mile old originals.

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2016, 05:25:48 pm »
They are superb mounts mate.  I've had them in a few VWs over the years.  The vibration is less over summer and the overall vibration is way lower than urethane mounts.


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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2016, 05:28:23 pm »
I'll be looking at getting a full set of mounts soon. Keep hearing good things about Vibratechnics.

How much would a set cost @Pudding ? Any links?

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2016, 06:55:17 pm »
Thanks for your reply Pudding I was also looking at the 034 street mounts the OEM look appealed to me but like you i have seen some reviews regarding quality if I go uprated after your comments and reading their website I will use Vibratechnics and AKS Tuning can supply at a good price. My main concern with using uprated mounts is dash rattles they drive me mad how were yours when you had them did you feel benefits out weighed the negatives 

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 07:02:30 pm »
^ Good question. Interior rattles are a pet hate of mine too.

Although I've always associated them with rough roads and/or harsh suspension, rather than resonance coming from the engine.

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2016, 10:04:33 pm »
you wanna buy a subframe with the vibratechnics mounts fitted to make your life easier :signLOL:
« Last Edit: December 08, 2016, 05:41:18 pm by r5gtt »

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2016, 10:39:53 am »
Has anyone tried the DLI mounts?

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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2016, 10:53:50 am »
@pudding - sorry if I'm being a bit dull  :confused: but,  by Febi being worse than OEM do you mean softer? or just bad quality?

Only asking as I have a set in the garage and had been planning on replacing my 114,000 mile old originals.

Thanks

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Bad quality from my experience of them in older VWs.  They just didn't last long at all and increased vibration.  Do they even make them for MK5s?  By all means try them, but I wouldn't count on them being amazing!


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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2016, 11:22:28 am »
Thanks for your reply Pudding I was also looking at the 034 street mounts the OEM look appealed to me but like you i have seen some reviews regarding quality if I go uprated after your comments and reading their website I will use Vibratechnics and AKS Tuning can supply at a good price. My main concern with using uprated mounts is dash rattles they drive me mad how were yours when you had them did you feel benefits out weighed the negatives

The benefits were a massively improved gear shift (manual) and the engine not flopping around in the engine bay round corners, like a seal trying to escape from a wheat sack.  The engine actually felt like part of the car, and not an anvil floating around aimlessly on a couple of bed springs.  That initial response when you stab the throttle improves too because the power is put down rather than the engine moving around.

It really does make a huge difference.   I've used them on older VWs (MK2 16V Turbo, MK1 16V, Corrado VR6 Turbo etc - so they can handle the grunt) and also a MK4 R32.   Wheel hop was zero with the FWD cars.  I haven't used them on a MK5 yet, but very tempted to.

The downside is obviously increased noise and vibration.   I can't comment on whether that happens in the MK5 FWD, but on the MK4 R32, NVH increased quite a lot, so I would expect the same in the MK5 as the mounting system is identical.  The dashboard didn't shake.   They were most noticeable at 1200rpm, where the engine felt very coarse and it vibrated the car.   Either side of that rpm was spot on.  The problem is mitigated with heat (from the engine, and ambient) so it does feel better the more the car is used.

The manual O2M/O2Q gearbox is a noisy, rough thing, so expect a fair bit of noise from that in the cabin!

Some people have different tolerance levels for this sort of thing.  If you know increased NVH will bother you, £400 odd is a lot to sink into this, only to be disappointed.  So I would say go into it expecting increased NVH from the outset, but it might not be as bad as you thought and can live with it.  Going into it expecting no increase in NVH at all will definitely lead to disappointment!


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Re: Febi engine mounts
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2016, 01:15:27 pm »
Sorry @Pudding are you talking about the DLI mounts above?