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Advice needed for k04 conversion
« on: December 19, 2016, 07:53:59 pm »
Evening all,
Im in aid of some advice with my car
Back in June I had a full k04 conversion,cambelt,helix organic clutch,valve clean,runner flap delete, also I was running Revo stage 2+ then went on to Revo stage "3
this is the main issue Is what I'm dealing with, when Im on full boost it spiked@23psi then it  backs off between 5500-6000k to 15psi then surged back up to 20psi and holds to red line
I thought that's not right so I phoned up I asked the question is this right, he said it's most likely to be the settings it's on to cause that issue, so I thought okay I'll pop up and have The settings looked at, he had the car 5 days he Phoned me up to say the car was running dangerously lean and the ecu is backing off the boost to protect the engine, the  measuring block 001 was showing 24.6  enrichment on the lambda +25% is the max... so it was maxing out !
Am I right in saying when mapping a car your meant to look into these things to make sure it's running perfectly so they've either not bothered looking in to this when I first had all the work done or did and left it as it is and let me take it home on 2 separate occasions with this serious fault!! 
Any advice would be helpful were I stand thank you
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 09:06:22 pm by jhook661 »
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion gone wrong from a reputable garage
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 08:12:01 pm »
Sorry to hear you're having problems mate. All I'll say about airing this on a public forum is be careful. It could go one of two ways; they see that their reputation is possibly being tarnished so do everything they can to put the job right and restore their reputation, or they take it badly and fob you off.

I know you haven't specifically mentioned the name of the garage, but as this thread potentially rumbles on it's probably wise to be cautious in just how much you say.

All that aside, hopefully you do get it sorted without too many issues along the way. Fingers crossed for you bud.


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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion gone wrong from a reputable garage
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 08:25:14 pm »
Impho the garage that carried out the conversion should have made sure the car was running safely with the map uploaded and all specifications during and after were met before releasing the vehicle back to the owner, yourself.

Taking the wizzlet of you ask me.
Regarding your boosting issue and the revo map!!! The garage should have resolved this on the second occasion and not fobbed you off like that as it's their reputation on the line here. @AJP in all honesty mate, this company sounds like he ripped the customer off and now doesn't give a hoot about it.  :fighting2:

« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 09:13:10 pm by r5gtt »

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion gone wrong from a garage
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 08:39:32 pm »
Thanks @r5gtt all I just want for it be sorted so I can enjoy it again instead of spending multiple hours each night researching to figure out what it could be, and replacing parts, spending money to try and resolve this my self  :sad1:
mate it's piss take when garages do this kind of thing and not try to rectify to issue and instead fob the poor customer off as I've had this with car insurance a couple of times and it's stressing to say the least!!!

Why should you the customer have to sit there for hours on end stressing and trying to find something you know nothing about and be spending more money on parts that may not even resol the issues  :fighting2: argh drives me mad !!! :@

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 09:07:06 pm »
This is shocking, I'd ask them to sort out all the problems, or they refund you and put it back to standard.

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 09:08:05 pm »
Did they change the MAP sensor to the 2bar version??

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2016, 09:10:25 pm »
Did they change the MAP sensor to the 2bar version??
Map sensor was left as it is because isn't needed for Revo software
Gti standard sensor is 2.5bar and ed30,s3,golf R is 3 bar
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2016, 09:16:06 pm »
Did they change the MAP sensor to the 2bar version??
Map sensor was left as it is because isn't needed for Revo software
Gti standard sensor is 2.5bar and ed30,s3,golf R is 3 bar
you sure about that mate?.  @Dan_FR is the one who can help on this I'm certain.

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2016, 09:17:13 pm »
the  measuring block 001 was showing 24.6  enrichment on the lambda +25% is the max... so it was maxing out !
Ok block 001 is engine speed so I'm guessing the +25% actually refers to you fuel trim.
What intake are you using?
Without traction power is nothing!

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2016, 09:19:59 pm »
you sure about that mate?.  @Dan_FR is the one who can help on this I'm certain.
He is correct!
A stage 3 revo ko4 converted car uses the standard 2.5 bar map sensor.
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2016, 09:21:49 pm »
If you go into measuring blocks 004/008 then go into 001 it does lambda and on full boost it's showing 24.6 enrichment if I'm correct so the ecu is making the injectors open longer to correct the lean issues? And Revo intake
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2016, 09:27:28 pm »
could you log your fuel trim (block 032) and post the results?
You don't need to start the car, just turn on the ignition and log for a second.
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2016, 09:29:33 pm »
I'll have a look now
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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2016, 09:30:01 pm »
you sure about that mate?.  @Dan_FR is the one who can help on this I'm certain.
He is correct!
A stage 3 revo ko4 converted car uses the standard 2.5 bar map sensor.
just asking as the requested boost is quite high for stage 3?.

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Re: Advice needed for k04 conversion
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2016, 09:30:31 pm »
This is shocking, I'd ask them to sort out all the problems, or they refund you and put it back to standard.

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looks like it.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 09:32:46 pm by r5gtt »