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Audio upgrade
« on: January 13, 2017, 06:13:53 pm »
Was there ever a Dynaudio type upgrade package from VW for the MK5, like what was on offer for the MK6?

My mate has the Dynaudio pack in his MK6 and it sounds superb.  Do MK6 speakers and amps etc fit in a MK5?

I want to improve the rubbish sound of the RNS510 but don't want aftermarket amps in the boot and wires everywhere.  Any suggestions?


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 06:32:50 pm »
I'm sure I've seen some used speaker kits on the bay that were touted as an oem upgrade, specifically for the mk5, although I don't think they were Dynaudio. I'm not sure if they were any good.

Problem is, to get any sort of decent SQ from the likes of a 510, you'll need an amp. Doesn't necessarily mean you need a huge 4 channel thing in the boot though - wasn't there an oem amp option that went under a front seat? As for speakers, the Gladen kit with 8" mids sounds like the sort of thing I'd be after. Apparently not 100% plug and play, but more plug and play than the majority of options.

I'll be in a similar boat at some point, so keep me posted if you have any success please!

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 10:54:38 am »
Cheers mate.  I haven't had the chance to look into this but yep, an OEM amp under the seat and OEM harnesses is what I had in mind!

Good shout on Gladen.  Just remembered I had the 8" woofer kit in my MK4 and yep, some minor chopping and stuff was required.  Nice bit of kit and didn't need a sub with those bad boys!


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 03:42:03 pm »
I had quite a 'home-built' setup in my old mk4. I'm sure the likes of anyone on a car audio forum would have scoffed at it in disgust, but it worked for me.

Alpine HU, touted as 4x50w but we all know that kind of power is unrealistic without an amp.

8" components and upgraded tweeters in the front with a crossover.

Monstrosity of a diy mdf parcel shelf housing a pair of those big old QB69s. Huge magnets. The thing weighed a ton, bowed in the middle, and caused all sorts of new creaks and squeaks in the back, which I duly silenced with bits of foam and stuff...

For my ears it was bloody good. Everyone always says you should only have the sound coming from the front, blah blah. But the Alpine let me fiddle with things and create a setup similar to you'd get with a small sub in the boot. Great sound from the components too considering it was all powered from the Alpine.

I can't help thinking a compact amp would be a wise move in the mk5 though, especially if I end up with an oem head unit!

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 04:51:01 pm »
Lol, reminds me of my early days of ICE using domestic speakers etc  :grin:

Exactly, if it sounds right to your ears, that's all that matters  :happy2:

I did properly get into this in a previous project because I was mates with a ICE specialist, so got some tasty kit at cost price - Alpine 9835R head unit, Genesis Dual Mono Amps, SEAS Lotus speakers, some posh sub I can't remember the name of and loads of dynamat and tuning etc.

In the end I was conscious of lugging around £1000s worth of kit in a car not difficult to break into, and the all the extra weight was blunting the performance / handling, so I ripped it all out and flogged it!

The OEM HU (if you mean RNS510) sounds horrible.   The bass is too bloated in the boxy sounding 120-200hz region, which you can't take out with the rubbishy 3 band EQ.  I can tell the OEM speakers have some bass depth there, but are being held back by the HU.  I reckon even just an offboard amp & EQ with stock speakers would sound pretty good actually!


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 10:22:17 pm »
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272526849091  is this radio an upgrade from rcd300?


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 04:14:17 pm »
I've been considering the MB Quart Golf V speaker kit for ease of installation as it's meant to be an exact fit in the OEM positions.


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2017, 03:45:42 pm »
I'm getting an RCD510 DAB fitted soon, in place of the antique looking RCD300. So the next step will be looking at amps, components etc.

I'll have a look at the MB Quart set @loop

Gladen still firmly on the list.

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2017, 03:58:55 pm »
Is there any plug and play recommendations? I'm not too clued up on the audio scene but just wanted an improvement on the current speakers but something simple that can just drop in and no messing about

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 04:38:07 pm »
Is there any plug and play recommendations? I'm not too clued up on the audio scene but just wanted an improvement on the current speakers but something simple that can just drop in and no messing about
I think the Gladen kit (and maybe that MB Quartz kit) is the closest thing I've found to plug and play. If I'm honest, I haven't done loads of research into it, but Gladen kept coming up in any threads worth reading.

It was all quite straightforward in the mk4, just a case of making sure something physically fitted. The more I read up about the mk5 though, the more it seems a little more involved. Again, I need to read up more!

As @Pudding alluded to, there's probably a better gain in sound quality from amping up the OEM speakers than powering upgraded speakers directly from an OEM HU. And obviously better still amping up some upgraded speakers.

The OEM headunits simply couldn't do any justice to any speakers worth buying without being amped. A lot of decent aftermarket HUs have a much better power output than the oem units, and better EQ control, so it's in some cases possible to achieve decent SQ without an amp. As I did in the mk4 - see my earlier post.

Bottom line, if you want good SQ from an OEM HU, you really need to bring an amp into the equation. If you want decent SQ from an aftermarket HU, you have a bit more scope.

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 08:51:21 am »
The 8" 3-way Gladen kit would absolutely be the one I'd go for, if I could spare the cash.

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 11:44:28 am »
The 8" 3-way Gladen kit would absolutely be the one I'd go for, if I could spare the cash.
It's a few quid isn't it. Last time I looked it was around £300?

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 01:49:04 pm »
I had the 510 DVD/Nav Head Unit in my last 6R with Dynaudio upgrade, Basically the top of the range.

I have the 510 DVD/Nav Head Unit in my current 6R without the Dynaudio upgrade....Cannot tell the difference.

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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2017, 08:05:12 am »
The 8" 3-way Gladen kit would absolutely be the one I'd go for, if I could spare the cash.
It's a few quid isn't it. Last time I looked it was around £300?
More like £350! Did read about one guy on one of the forums who installed it and said the improvement wasn't really worth all the hassle in the end!


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Re: Audio upgrade
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2017, 08:50:55 am »
I do miss the sound of my sound system in my gttdi as i play a lot of hard house so the bass on the standard speakers is horrodous