gt 28 maps ?

[poko]

jonny,
that sounds a little like advertising :)

i have driven a stage III apr car, and it was really nice. not a 600hp beast , but really linear and powerfull which is what suits a FWD if you want it to be a track car and not a drag car.

as for your case, afaik you are working directly with REVO and they custom tune your car , that is really different. REVO are very capable and can do good stuff , but they have to want to do it.

they clearly said that they do not tune for GILIM's turbo and have no intention to. so he will have to try and adjust a tune not made for his car by using a MBC.

it something that works great on the 1.8t's but i'm not really sure he will pull it through on the TFSI.

[jonnyc]

jonny,
that sounds a little like advertising :)

i have driven a stage III apr car, and it was really nice. not a 600hp beast , but really linear and powerfull which is what suits a FWD if you want it to be a track car and not a drag car.

as for your case, afaik you are working directly with REVO and they custom tune your car , that is really different. REVO are very capable and can do good stuff , but they have to want to do it.

they clearly said that they do not tune for GILIM's turbo and have no intention to. so he will have to try and adjust a tune not made for his car by using a MBC.

it something that works great on the 1.8t's but i'm not really sure he will pull it through on the TFSI.

Nope, not really.. I just believe that Revo are the best option out there.. There just isn't many people world wide running the Revo file that GillM is looking at, so as I have had it on two of my cars, I thought it would be of help me commenting..

I run the same stage 4 file as everyone else out there, which is designed around a 3071R on a .63 exhaust housing running an ATP manifold.. Im running a 3076 with a larger exhaust housing and a tubular manifold, so the map is not custom tuned at all but runs fantastically..

I know your intentions are good, but I believe that personal experience counts for a lot more..

[RedRobin]

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My tuppence worth is that if Revo are able to provide something, then go with them. They are in the UK and have second-to-none customer support in my experience.

Regardless of how good an APR solution is or isn't, I think you'd be stuck with long trips to Awesome in Manchester. Custard Code (loving that name!) isn't really a wise option - I've been hearing too many negative stories, but of course I stand to be corrected as I don't have direct experience of them.

I know Ray West - He's an ace track driver and can build a race car from scratch - Extremely capable but a small operation and always incredibly busy. 

[poko]

Nope, not really.. I just believe that Revo are the best option out there.. There just isn't many people world wide running the Revo file that GillM is looking at, so as I have had it on two of my cars, I thought it would be of help me commenting..

I run the same stage 4 file as everyone else out there, which is designed around a 3071R on a .63 exhaust housing running an ATP manifold.. Im running a 3076 with a larger exhaust housing and a tubular manifold, so the map is not custom tuned at all but runs fantastically..

I know your intentions are good, but I believe that personal experience counts for a lot more..

Jonny
Although i have zero experience with the REVO stage 4 i do have some experience with the APR stage III

my only point is , that the tune should fit the car.

you wouldn't run a k04 tune on a k03 car and detune it usign a MBC would you ?
so why run a gt3071 tune on an 2871 ?

it would work , but i guess it would be far off from getting the most out of this turbo.

i think the best option for GILIM would be (if APR would agree) is to get the apr stage III software.
he will have to change to APR injectors and intake (due to the 4" MAF) but would get a perfect tune for his car.

if he does go with revo , i would be real interested to see the numbers they pull out of this kit with the 3071 software.

[gillm]

so far its a toss up between west tuning and revo . cost wise there is about 100 quid between then when you add a boost controller to the revo side of things .

i know rays work very well and seen great "safe" maps producing great power

and i have had revo for a few years now and had no problems at all with it and i like the extra features with it . but seeing as there are more GT28 kits coming out vf and dibilas already have a kit and i have heard that others are coming out soon . it seems strange that revo dont want to get in on the 28 maps .

[poko]

VF kit is horrible (not the one you have)
there is a huge thread on it on golfmkv and no one is getting power with that kit.

as far as i understand you have a gt2871 with an a/r of 0.86 which is really a good piece of kit.

they than changed to 0.63 A/R in order to diffrentiate it from their RSR kit and they got very low power figures.

REVO is going with 3071 because they believe it is the ideal turbo for this engine , APR went with 2871 with a 0.86 A/R because they believe it can make around the same power with faster spool . ATP will sell you whatever you want but will supply no tune.

West tuning i don't know ... i am not from the UK

[Janner_Sy]

my only point is , that the tune should fit the car.

you wouldn't run a k04 tune on a k03 car and detune it usign a MBC would you ?
so why run a gt3071 tune on an 2871 ?

it would work , but i guess it would be far off from getting the most out of this turbo.

i see where you are coming from, that makes sense to me. 

[jonnyc]

Think its probably best that I just leave it now..

Hope that you get the map sorted either way and wish you the best of luck! Make sure that you keep us updated once the kit is on etc..

[Janner_Sy]

no need to stop replying, if people dont like your replies they can hit the ignore button.  I think your experiences help a lot on here. you normally one of the fist guys to do half the crazy sh!t that can be done to our cars

[poko]

Think its probably best that I just leave it now..

Hope that you get the map sorted either way and wish you the best of luck! Make sure that you keep us updated once the kit is on etc..

just to be clear on that :
i think you are doing amazing thing to your car and the whole gti community (o.k Leon community in my case) can learn from that.
and although i have many things now in work for my car, i will not go as extreme as you and i envy your courage and time investment in this project.

however , we do not have to agree on everything , that's what forums are for.

[jonnyc]

however , we do not have to agree on everything , that's what forums are for.

Completely understand, and im not trying to be funny at all.. I think we have both said what we think in terms of what map etc etc.. 

[RedRobin]

^^^^
Nice one! A great example of mutual respect.

[gillm]

all help is great guys . the more the better to help me weigh things up .

[chungster]

Martin,

You spoken to Bill about it? Maybe he can come up with something?

If all else fails...you can always run a GIAC file from Regal!

[gillm]

yeh spoke to bill but he is not clued up with tfsi . and not wanting giac mate