Celtic Tuning

[Dan_FR]

Unless its had a bigger turbo fitted, it is not north of 200hp. You really think your mapped PD140 is as quick as a mapped PD170, which will produce around 200-210hp after a remap?

It is a sales figure and it works. The reality is the figure is lower but it doesn't mean its not a good map that makes the car fun to drive.

Peak torque numbers are easy to produce on a small framed turbo when you ramp the boost up at very low RPM. The problem with this is it makes the car feel a lot quicker than it is and induces a loss of traction. Making and holding that torque number across the whole rpm range is what makes a car quick

[pudding]

Which can be depicted quite nicely with this remapped Leon CR 170 dyno plot.

Mental at 2250rpm, but has lost 200lbft by 4850rpm.  A bit of a weapon for the daily commute.  K04 TFSI does nothing until 2500rpm.

[Bigjimknickers]

 No I don't believe it's more than a mapped pd170, it is fun though & that's all that matters I suppose. They shouldn't really give out pieces of paper stating 206bhp as surely that's a reason for comebacks on the sale? Shame it's going next week or I'd of had a run on the farnborough dyno, just out of pure interest.

[AJP]

The thing is, there are two scenarios here, one of which is potentially costly to the owner.

1) The dyno figures are grossly overstated. Sneaky marketing. The car will actually be making around 170-180 with the map, which shouldn't be harmful to the car assuming certain parameters are kept in check. This is usually around the power level a BKD will reach with a good map.

Or...

2) The car is actually making 200+ bhp, with standard hardware. A mapper could theoretically force the car to make this much power, with huge boost, silly timing, all the rest of it. But the turbo would last 5 minutes. Literally. The thing would just self destruct.

I'm guessing it's closer to 1 than 2.

Celtic Tuning were notorious for overstating their bhp claims on the old 1.9 diesels. There was quite a flap about it at one point. Looking at the website it seems they're STILL at it...

[Bigjimknickers]

Looks like it.

And I've got the "certificate" to prove it!!