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manual boost controllers ?
« on: January 22, 2010, 08:47:32 pm »
right having a new turbo fitted (28.71) and currently running revo stage 2 , which i really rate and hoping to stay with revo . after a chat on the phone with them they are wanting me to run a manual boost controller ,and they will map around it .

any suggestions on which 1 to use ?
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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 08:57:05 pm »
Interesting, I'm hoping you are going to say that you will be running a wideband o2 sensor in addition to a manual boost controller too, so that you can keep an eye on AFR. Upping the boost without changing fuelling could see things leaning out a little too much. Or is it going to be a programmable boost controller that Revo will map around to take in boost variations and set up a table for fuelling/timing around it? Sounds like it is going to be an interesting development.

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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 09:09:51 pm »
yeh widebane is going in . also want to keep a eye on egt's .

revo told me they will map around it using stage 4 software
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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 09:20:12 pm »
What sensor array are you going to use, if you have the money you should look at investing in a DashDaq II http://www.dashdaq.com. Digital guage display that can pull from your wideband O2/temp sensors E.g. innovate/zeitronix. Sorry for going OT - have heard good things about the E-Boost 2 by TurboSmart but it is pricey.

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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 09:32:54 pm »
unsure yet . i will prob use my mates spare till i decide
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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 07:17:26 pm »
anyone got any thoughts on this 1 ?
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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 08:01:37 pm »
This sounds really wrong.

maybe i am not knowledgable enough , but it looks to me like a way to patch their 3071 software to your turbo.

as far as i understand , revo have a software that was optimized for use with gt3071r with an A/R of 0.63

you on the other hand are going to use a 2871 (what a/r?)

now , working with manual boost controller would either mean that they don't want to spend time to optimize boost in the software or they do not know how since they have no test car with the setup.

in any case , Afaik there is no way to uploade to the computer variable maps based on constant changing boost and you will probably be running either too rich or too lean , and with a software not optimized for your turbo , so power will not be brilliant as well.

i would love to also hear from REVO what is the reasoning behind external boost controllers. this is from the 1.8t age , really never seen it work well with the 2.0Tfsi

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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 10:00:21 am »
As Carl mentioned in the other thread you're posting in, we do not support the 2871R on the TFSI engine. The 3071R is a much better turbo to use on these engines. We do not support any turbo we don't see worthwhile using. However I believe this kit has been doing the rounds and was most likely picked up relatively cheap, if Gillm does want to use it then he 'could' use our Stage4 3071R specific software and a Manual Boost Controller. However this isn't something we support.

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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 11:39:56 am »
hi kev , i understand the issue and responded to carl in the other thread.

btw : the 3071 you support is internally WG on t25 flange or externally on t3 flange ?

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Re: manual boost controllers ?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 09:21:20 am »
We support the externally gated setup!