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neg:
I agree with Gaz, tyres play a big part.
TBH I dont think there is that much wrong with the standard GTI setup for normal road use, they does the job pretty well but of course like anything improvements could be made.
Remember its not always how quick you can stop though :driver:
182_blue:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on December 26, 2008, 11:56:00 am ---The 362mm discs and 6-pot AP Racing's finest I have en-route... drool!
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i had these on my last car (£1299+vat) but found them a little noisey and compromised for day to day driving, they were however very good on the braking front
tony_danza:
^^LOL, I know exactly what you mean..
I had Tarox's and DS2500's on my Anni and if they weren't used in anger for a few days they'd squeal like a stuck pig! Oddly though the second set of pads never had the same problem.
--- Quote from: RedRobin on December 26, 2008, 04:32:48 pm ---^^^^
Exactly his point - 6-pot overkill for my use, but not for your use :happy2:
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This is just my opinion and by no means gospel.
If I was being asked, I'd recommend a decent set of pads and GOOD, high spec. fresh fluid on an R32 set up will be more than enough for most and with a bit of sympathetic driving will stand up to the odd track day (i.e. don't go staying out for too long and cook them). I'd go grooved over drilled discs if those were on the agenda too - just don't get anything EBC, it's garbage.
Your set up RR is pretty much ideal for anyone wanting to spend a bit more to reduce weight and get more power/less fade. I think it's the best mid-range set up you can buy. Alcons are AP standard, but I've discovered hard to get a decent range of pads for. RS4's are a great buy and Hurdy's are very trick too.
The Porsche/ECS ones are just for show, I wouldn't touch them.
And finally the big boys. 360mm discs and big calipers are as you say wasted on most. Usually found on 2 types of cars - Credit card wonders that'll never see a day's work for fear of making dust, and track slags.
Those VWR ones are surely based on an AP set up?? for the money, they're bang on. The cheapest I could find AP 6-pots (albiet with only a 330mm disc) was £1900 on the open market. So for bigger discs and essentially the same calipers/pads made specifically for a MKV, then that's what I'd have been looking at.
Out of interest RR how do you find the noise on yours?
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on December 27, 2008, 10:11:12 am ---RedRobin, out of interest what pads are you running in yours and how do you find the noise?
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....I'm still running the original Ferodo DS2500 pads which AP fitted my 4-pots with. Squealing is usually associated with bedding-in. I didn't get much squealing but I did experience some rattling and rubbing of the VW cover plate on tight roundabouts, but this was easily stopped.
I've covered a huge distance on my pads, something like well over 25,000 miles, but my style of driving is usually light on brake use. Braking points on approaching familiar roundabouts are greatly reduced - To the extent that I have embarrassed myself more than once by braking hard and then having to get back on the throttle to reach the roundabout!
I use a combination of shifting down the gears and braking and that also means I'm in the right gear for a fast exit - Many a time has someone been all over my tail approaching a roundabout but a small image in my rearview mirror on the exit and they usually stop bullying me subsequently. The Quaife helps.
Yes, the VW stock brakes are very good....Until you've experienced others! One difference I enjoy is the far better pedal 'feel' and response.
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tony_danza:
The Daddy of pads! They do everything you ask of them :happy2:
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