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ukdub:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on December 27, 2008, 10:11:12 am ---
The Porsche/ECS ones are just for show, I wouldn't touch them.
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You would think that calipers designed to stop a 2 ton SUV would be good on the GTI.
Is there any reason to you saying they are just for show, as I was thinking about this set up :happy2:
Hurdy:
--- Quote from: ukdub on December 27, 2008, 09:07:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: tony_danza on December 27, 2008, 10:11:12 am ---
The Porsche/ECS ones are just for show, I wouldn't touch them.
--- End quote ---
You would think that calipers designed to stop a 2 ton SUV would be good on the GTI.
Is there any reason to you saying they are just for show, as I was thinking about this set up :happy2:
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It's the main reason the Cayenne weighs 2 tons :grin:
Seriously though the ECS/Porsche calipers don't give anything like the progressive feel of the TAROX's, AP's, Brembo's etc as they are primarily designed for stopping a 2 ton SUV. The one's I tried were either on or off and made for a very jerky, unstable and non-inspiring drive. Don't get me wrong, they do stop you - just don't expect the same feel as GTI designed stoppers. :xmassmiley:
ukdub:
--- Quote from: Hurdy on December 27, 2008, 10:29:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: ukdub on December 27, 2008, 09:07:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: tony_danza on December 27, 2008, 10:11:12 am ---
The Porsche/ECS ones are just for show, I wouldn't touch them.
--- End quote ---
You would think that calipers designed to stop a 2 ton SUV would be good on the GTI.
Is there any reason to you saying they are just for show, as I was thinking about this set up :happy2:
--- End quote ---
It's the main reason the Cayenne weighs 2 tons :grin:
Seriously though the ECS/Porsche calipers don't give anything like the progressive feel of the TAROX's, AP's, Brembo's etc as they are primarily designed for stopping a 2 ton SUV. The one's I tried were either on or off and made for a very jerky, unstable and non-inspiring drive. Don't get me wrong, they do stop you - just don't expect the same feel as GTI designed stoppers. :xmassmiley:
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Thanks for that, I will cross them of the list. It has to be the Alcon's then. :happy2:
JPC:
just to add my thoughts, for fast road use the r32 set up with proper pads are a bargain!
i have found them nothing but fantastic and for the price you cant go wrong. i have driven my car hard on numerous occasions now and i really cant fault them. i am yet to experience any suggestion of fade either
tony_danza:
Hurdy's got it in one - we're talking about something that stops a giant SUV, so on a Golf they're either off or on and the master cylinder isn't up to the job, which is a shame as they got it so right with the MKIV's Boxter based set up. There's also the issue of using a minimum 15mm spacer, the first compression corner and you're shedding the wing. The track is bigger on the front as it is, so that's not making it any better and there's also possible wheel bearing issues in the long term.
If you look at it, they simply haven't been well thought out in terms of anything other than looking the part. They don't function as a viable upgrade.
Alcons are superb and loved by the Scooby lot, they're rare on the MKV and pads can be tricky to get hold of - but certainly on par with APs. Speak to EARS Motorsport in Macclesfield, they'll generally do them 10% off list. www.ears.co.uk
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