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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2017, 12:17:12 am »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2017, 08:24:45 am »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2017, 11:28:17 am »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Yes, that makes sense. Also make a habit of checking your follower for wear (if you don't already) in the future.  It'll wear faster with the uprated pump than with a standard pump.

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2017, 11:58:12 am »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Yes, that makes sense. Also make a habit of checking your follower for wear (if you don't already) in the future.  It'll wear faster with the uprated pump than with a standard pump.
Ok cheers I will do.

I suppose the other thing is there isn't anyway of knowing how many miles this guy has actually put on the pump.


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2017, 12:38:12 pm »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Yes, that makes sense. Also make a habit of checking your follower for wear (if you don't already) in the future.  It'll wear faster with the uprated pump than with a standard pump.
Ok cheers I will do.

I suppose the other thing is there isn't anyway of knowing how many miles this guy has actually put on the pump.


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There isn't really, there's a bit of blind faith involved. It crossed my mind too when I picked mine up second hand. You've just got to decide if you trust the seller and go from there.

Although I'd take a bet that the number of fully-working, reasonable-mileage pumps outnumber any truly dodgy ones by a considerable margin. And the same goes for honest sellers vs dodgy dealers. Probability is on your side!

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2017, 12:43:35 pm »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Yes, that makes sense. Also make a habit of checking your follower for wear (if you don't already) in the future.  It'll wear faster with the uprated pump than with a standard pump.
Ok cheers I will do.

I suppose the other thing is there isn't anyway of knowing how many miles this guy has actually put on the pump.


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There isn't really, there's a bit of blind faith involved. It crossed my mind too when I picked mine up second hand. You've just got to decide if you trust the seller and go from there.

Although I'd take a bet that the number of fully-working, reasonable-mileage pumps outnumber any truly dodgy ones by a considerable margin. And the same goes for honest sellers vs dodgy dealers. Probability is on your side!
Cheers for the advise. Think I'm going to just go for it and buy it. He has sent me some photos but again doesn't really show how many miles have bee put on it.

I do suppose you know a part number for the seal do you? Managed to order the follower but no seal!





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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2017, 12:54:04 pm »
Sounds good to me. If it's as advertised then it's a very good deal.
He also suggested when I fit it to put in a new cam follower and o ring seal for the pump?


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Yes, that makes sense. Also make a habit of checking your follower for wear (if you don't already) in the future.  It'll wear faster with the uprated pump than with a standard pump.
Ok cheers I will do.

I suppose the other thing is there isn't anyway of knowing how many miles this guy has actually put on the pump.


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There isn't really, there's a bit of blind faith involved. It crossed my mind too when I picked mine up second hand. You've just got to decide if you trust the seller and go from there.

Although I'd take a bet that the number of fully-working, reasonable-mileage pumps outnumber any truly dodgy ones by a considerable margin. And the same goes for honest sellers vs dodgy dealers. Probability is on your side!
Cheers for the advise. Think I'm going to just go for it and buy it. He has sent me some photos but again doesn't really show how many miles have bee put on it.

I do suppose you know a part number for the seal do you? Managed to order the follower but no seal!





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I don't know the part number, sorry. I had mine fitted at Statller (well-respected VAG tuner) so I assume any new o-rings and things were done there and then!

As for the pump, on the blue Loba plaque there should be a build number - theoretically you should be able to suss out its age and if it all adds up. Can you request a more detailed photo of that from the seller? Then maybe post it up here and some of the more knowledgeable members can shed some light on it. Maybe start a 'Tell me about this Loba pump' thread or something. Or even contact Loba themselves. I didn't do all this, it didn't really occur to me at the time, but thinking about it again it might go some way towards safeguarding any deal.

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2017, 01:00:48 pm »
No worries I managed to find it in the end.

That's a good idea mate think I will do that ! Cheers again!

If I do get the pump it looks like I will be buying the rs4 return valve and going stage 2+ !


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2017, 01:17:34 pm »
No worries I managed to find it in the end.

That's a good idea mate think I will do that ! Cheers again!

If I do get the pump it looks like I will be buying the rs4 return valve and going stage 2+ !


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Yeah with a k04 the RS4 valve is a good supporting mod. I got one in when I had a set of refurbed injectors fitted so I'm future-proofed if and when I go k04!

2+ will be a huge transformation over your current map. Buckets of torque.


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2017, 01:20:06 pm »
No worries I managed to find it in the end.

That's a good idea mate think I will do that ! Cheers again!

If I do get the pump it looks like I will be buying the rs4 return valve and going stage 2+ !


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Yeah with a k04 the RS4 valve is a good supporting mod. I got one in when I had a set of refurbed injectors fitted so I'm future-proofed if and when I go k04!

2+ will be a huge transformation over your current map. Buckets of torque.
What exactly does it do just keep the fuel pressure up?

Yeah I'm looking forward to it even if it is through the front wheels !


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2017, 01:25:53 pm »
Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2017, 01:37:12 pm »
Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!
Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2017, 01:44:33 pm »
Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!
Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!

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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2017, 01:51:22 pm »
Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!
Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!
You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Re: Take it easy before the remap?
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2017, 02:03:57 pm »
Basically, yeah. The standard valve opens at a lower pressure. So it just helps maintain the higher pressure that the Loba is capable of producing.

Niki's 2+ maps (on the k04 at least) are apparently very tractable, with 1:1 throttle mapping etc. So you should be able to get the power down nicely with a tempered right foot! Obviously good tyres, suspension etc all help. Once you're up into 3rd you should be able to go WOT. And take off!
Oh right ok I get it. Guessing it would make sense to get the pump fitted at the same time as the return valve from a labour point of view?

That's reassuring. My mate has just bought an s3 8p and that thing sticks to the road like glue! But as impressive as it is it's a bit too tame. I like a bit of drama when I'm driving!


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I think it's an inlet manifold off job. Bit more involved than the pump. But get them both fitted at the same time, no reason not to.

Yeah I often crave AWD, but 2WD has its perks. Once you're rolling it's plenty of fun. Things are warming up a bit now too, so traction's less of an issue. In the middle of winter though, anything down past 6 degrees or so, it's a bit silly - mine will spin up in 3rd, and I'm on decent tyres!
You think it will be noticeable after fitting them even before the remap?

Yeah I know what you mean, my friend invited me out for a drive even in the rain and I have to decline as I wouldn't enjoy it much.

Also planned on getting an anti lift kit at some point which should help. Which tyres are you running? I'm currently on Michelin ps3's.


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Theoretically you shouldn't feel much of a performance increase from the pump until it's mapped to request more fuel, but in practice you really do. Along with the BCS and other bolt ons you'll definitely feel it. Then after the 2+ map it'll be like a different car.

Anti lift is on my to-do list. I'm hoping to get some coilovers so might do it at the same time.

Maybe look into uprated engine mounts too. They'll make a big difference in terms of reducing wheel hop and helping with power delivery.

I'm on PS4 at the front and Super Sport on the back. Had Super Sport all round but they'd jumped in price when I'd got through the fronts, so tried PS4. They're good. Really not far behind the Super Sports.

PS3 are maybe a bit more of an all-rounder, but still a good tyre. See how you go. When you need new ones, there's the new PS4S (not to be confused with the normal PS4) which is pretty much the replacement for the Super Sport.